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Not to put a damper on them but don't they cause a lot of reflection from the hood?
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10-30-2013, 06:34 PM
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i have a snorkel and would be willing to try these out, i have an array of lights i could mount up to show the different styles and types of lights. while i dont own a set of RI LED duallys i have a friend down the street who has a knock off set, and im sure i could pull them off his LJ and put them on my runner for some pics...
i sent CBI a PM to let them know id be willing to test the out with the snorkel. so just waiting to hear back from them at this point.
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10-31-2013, 06:16 PM
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Would black magic 1000's be too big for these?
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11-08-2013, 01:52 PM
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just got mine in the mail last night -ordered them on monday i think... anyhow going out to install them time meow...
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11-08-2013, 04:39 PM
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Installing mine tonight as well
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just as is suspected, this wont work with the snorkel...
but i can use the drivers side for a CB antenna mount...
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11-08-2013, 07:31 PM
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I'd be interested in the other side for a CB mount...
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11-08-2013, 08:40 PM
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sweet... ill split shipping with you to make things even for both of us... $25 + 1/2 shipping sound fair?
its way better than the ODL drifter mount at $43... this thing is beefy for a CB mount lol
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sweet... ill split shipping with you to make things even for both of us... $25 + 1/2 shipping sound fair?
its way better than the ODL drifter mount at $43... this thing is beefy for a CB mount lol
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Works for me, guess i should buy a CB and all the shit to go with it.
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ok so first things first, i am a paying customer, i was not given a set of these by CBI -they did cover my shipping though, and CBI is not paying me for any advertising. i have never owned a CBI product before. i have head several things about CBI, all of them have been good, and i have seen a couple of bumpers made by them and like what i saw, so my expectations are high. that being said the brackets look great, and well built -quality
installing was fairly easy, one person can do it, it would be easier with two people. instructions are kind of lacking, ie there are none that come in the box, you have to go to their web page to get them -CBI might want to fix that, as not everyone has access to the interwebs all the time.
they will NOT fit on a vehicle with a snorkel, -at least not the ARB safari snorkel(which is the most popular snorkel out there for our rigs. the bracket hits the snorkel (as i initially suspected it would) and holds the fender about 3/4" away from being able to bolt back up or reattach the upper support on the snorkel to the A pillar. i think that if CBI could move the bracket in about 1" and up maybe 1/2" it might work. idk
ok onto the things i dont like about this, and im being critical here, not because i dont like CBI(i actually do like their designs on bumpers ect.) but because from what i have seen in the past im expecting great things... so first off i installed these brackets wrong, and they should go ontop of the hood hinge bracket, not under it as i have shown in the pics. if you install like i did you will run into these problems- the brackets are thick at the base, so much so that this will raise the back of the hood so the hood reveal will not be factory or stay nice and neat all the way back, it raises up about 1/4" and its defiantly noticeable. second is the /notches CBI made in the vertical part of the bracket for the hood hinge are ment for the bracket to be installed ontop of the factory hing, not under. those could be made more pronounced and or deeper, as they can rub(because of my installation error), mine does and it will soon wear of the powder coating (its already wore off the paint on the hood hinge) and both will start to rust. third, and this one is nit picky, but you will have to cut the lower valance/cowling at the base of the windscreen/windshield to install these. that will mean, once installed if you ever decide to remove them you will have noticable holes in your cowling at the base of the windscreen/windshield. this can be fixed by sourcing another cowling but could be a hassle.
sense i can not use these as intended and i have already paid for them and installed them or tried to anyhow(drivers side works fine) i am going to go ahead and keep the drivers side, and use it for a CB antenna mount. while the mount does mess with the hood reveal, i put my full weight(185lbs) on the back corner of the hood and that brought it back down a little(not sure what i bent lol but everything still opens and closes just fine) so now the gap is only about 1/8" and so thats a little more tolerable.
all in all, i think this is a good product, a few tweeks and adjustments and it could be a great product that could work with vehicles with a snorkel. but for now, those of us with snorkels are just gonna have to find some place else for lights.
these are pics of the hood hinges before the instal
IMG_5216 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5217 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
removing the windshield wiper caps and wipers
IMG_5224 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5223 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5225 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5228 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
removing the trim cowling below the windshield
IMG_5230 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5229 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
once you get all the screws out, there are 4 small pins on the front of the cowl under the hood that you will need to pop up and out, and then carefully lift up the front of the cowl, pull it forward a little and then lift up the back and pull it out between the hood and the windshield.
remove the top bolts in the door jam for the back of the front fender - 10mm (same for the drivers side)
IMG_5233 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5231 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5232 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
the next step is irreverent, as it only pertains to trucks with snorkels, and this product(as it is now) wont work with the snorkel
IMG_5235 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5234 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
(you will notice that i have installed these incorrectly, as the bracket/mount goes over the factory hood hinge bracket -included instructions with this product could have alleviated this mistake)
next you will remove all the top bolts on the fenders(some how i managed to not get pics of this, i can do that this weekend and update the post with them)
after that you will pull the top of the fender up and over the "lip" on the side core support and out of the way, exposing the two bolts per side of the lower hood hinge. these are the bolts you must remove, they are 12mm. this is where a second paid of hands will come to help, once you unbolt both bolts on one side the hood will want to kick back and could pinch your hand to the hood -not good. under the hinge is two larger washers, you can either leave them between the core and the new bracket or the new bracket and the hood hinge as i did.
IMG_5238 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5236 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
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Reason: for more claridication and acknowledging my errors in installation
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instal cont.
after that you will pull the top of the fender up and over the "lip" on the side core support and out of the way, exposing the two bolts per side of the lower hood hinge. these are the bolts you must remove, they are 12mm. this is where a second paid of hands will come to help, once you unbolt both bolts on one side the hood will want to kick back and could pinch your hand to the hood -not good. ignore the two giant washers. if you install these correctly you will never do this or need any info on them, this apart of my screw up and improper installation. as per CBI instructions the brackets/mounts go ontop of the hood hinge.
IMG_5238 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5236 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
here is the passenger side(snorkel side) hinge all put together.
IMG_5240 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5241 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5243 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5244 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5245 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
in those last few you can see how, the snorkel and the bracket hit, and thus holds the fender out about 3/4" from being able to be reattached (both fender and snorkel)
and this is what i was talking about with the grove. it could be more pronounced and larger... even though i did install the bracket wrong, i still think the grove could be made with a little more clearance, not sure if i would have this same issue if installed correctly... especially on the lower part of the bracket in the last pic
IMG_5255 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5256 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
id say if it was 1" forward it would probably work, i dont think the antenna would be in the way either(i have the taco whip so its a full antenna)
IMG_5258 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5263 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
here is the hood reveal that i was talking about...
IMG_5263 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5269 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
(again this will not be an issue if you install them correctly and fallow the instructions. -if you chose to install the way i have shown, then simply pushing down on the edge of the hood will gently bend it back to almost its original location)
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instal cont.
here are some various lights mounted to it...
IMG_5271 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5274 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
PIAA 40 series -same as the 540, just older (6")
IMG_5277 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5280 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5282 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5283 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
PIAA 510 (4")
IMG_5285 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5286 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5287 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5288 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
PIAA 410 -designed and made to be a factory replacement for Ford F series trucks, it replaces the fog lights in the bumper
you could mount almost any light to this bracket, and it would clear the hood. if CBI makes adjustments to the brackets to accommodate the snorkel, the light would have to be a shallow light, but there is still plenty of room to chose from several lights. id say most all lights would fit. i know my PIAA 80 pro xt lights would fit and they are a big light, my IPF 800MSRs(the big round ones on my ARB bumper) however probably would not, as it is a deep light.
and currently how i have it set up....
IMG_5289 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
IMG_5290 by isaacyocum, on Flickr
i will get another pic of it wired up, right now its pouring rain out and im not about to trash my camera...
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I think some of your issues are caused by the fact that you put them under your hood hinge. As per the instructions they are supposed to go on top of the hinge. Just installed a set on
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edit: obviously this wont fix the snorkel issue
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I think some of your issues are caused by the fact that you put them under your hood hinge. As per the instructions they are supposed to go on top of the hinge. Just installed a set on
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ah... silly me, you are correct, but still thats only gonna fix the hood reveal issue as you stated... for me the hinge being ontop of the bracket actually works better as it allows room for the coax cable to fit between the hood and the cowling without being pinched.
again instructions with the product would have cleared this up... running back into the house to check the computer at every step is just not practical
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ah... silly me, you are correct, but still thats only gonna fix the hood reveal issue as you stated... for me the hinge being ontop of the bracket actually works better as it allows room for the coax cable to fit between the hood and the cowling without being pinched.
again instructions with the product would have cleared this up... running back into the house to check the computer at every step is just not practical
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Yea I can see how it would help in your situation. Thin light wires are nothing compared to a coax. Sucks about the snorkel issue. I was debating a pair of these but I have plans to make a snorkel once I head back to OK so it will probably be a no-go for me as well.
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