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I love seeing your fab work dude. The design AND execution are always spot-on Looking forward to hearing how the new 4-link performs!
A driveshaft spacer sketches me out, but I don't have enough knowledge on them to have any validity to my feelings. Just like wheel spacers- if they have centering rings on both sides, and the bolts are properly torqued- you should be fine.
Again, great work
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05-14-2018, 10:59 PM
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I love seeing your fab work dude. The design AND execution are always spot-on Looking forward to hearing how the new 4-link performs!
A driveshaft spacer sketches me out, but I don't have enough knowledge on them to have any validity to my feelings. Just like wheel spacers- if they have centering rings on both sides, and the bolts are properly torqued- you should be fine.
Again, great work
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Thank You! I appreciate the compliments. I really enjoy fabricating things that look as well as they perform. It’s easy to just slap things together half assed and still perform as needed, but something about taking the time to design something that is visually appealing and executed properly is extremely satisfying. Obviously something you know very well by looking at all your builds. Your attention to detail is amazing. I don’t have the patience for details in most things I do. Even fabricating, I get lazy sometimes.
Just ordered the Trail Gear Longfield Triple Drilled 1.5” spacer. It has the hub centric style centering rings and grade 8.8 bolts. I’m not too worried about it being an issue. If it becomes an issue, I’ll pay the $200 or so to have my driveshaft lengthen. For now, the $40 spacer should be fine.
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05-17-2018, 01:53 AM
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The new hydro bumps showed up today, along with the mounting cans. Did a quick mock up and there is already a slight problem... not much room for tire clearance. Looks like they will need to be frenched into the frame, which then leads to them sticking up into the cab. Not a huge issue, but just more work for me to get things dialed in. I’ve got my plans set this weekend to try to knock as much work as I can with the 4-link stuff. If I can pull off mounting these too, I’ll be super stoked. Gotta make some strike plates for them though. Should be easy, since I will just use the cutouts from the 3” holes I drilled in my frame plates.
With the amount of up travel I currently have, I don’t need to use all 4” of the bump stops since I don’t want to be riding on bumps constantly with only 5” or so of up travel. So I had a machinist buddy make some of these for me to shorten the stroke to 3”. They turned out *****in!
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05-21-2018, 11:14 AM
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Knocked out some major work this weekend on the 4-link. For the most part things went pretty smoothly since I did a lot of prepping prior to this weekend and that took just about all the guesswork out.
Friday night I got home from work and immediately got to work pulling brake lines, fuel lines, bumper, fuel tank, and the axle.
Saturday my buddy Kyle came over and we went to town on cutting everything off the axle and frame. All 5 link mounts got cut off the axle, and 3 more crossmembers got cut off the frame rails, along with link mounts. I also needed to cut off the coil buckets too, so they can be rewelded back a few inches to match the axle. Once we got everything stripped down to bare frame (which is a hell of a lot of work), we started mocking things up and tacking them in place. Once I cut the stock crossmember off behind the t-case, the frame rails pulled in almost 1/4”. So I had to trim the crossmember and brackets back a little bit to fit between the frame rails. Once we got it all in place, we pulled the axle under the truck and test fitted the new links. Those lower links are heavy! While we were putting the links in place, I had the upper frame side link put in place and reached over to grab the bolt next to me while Kyle was wiggling his side into place. While he was wiggling his side, my side slid out and the joint landed right on my face next to my eye. Boy did that one hurt!! Even with all that beer we were drinking. Now I got a nice puffy red mark next to my eye. Luckily after that link was bolted in, we were ready to cycle the suspension, so the excitement washed away the pain along with celebratory beers once we determined everything was lined up properly and cycled perfectly. At that point we it was getting too late to work, so we cleaned up and jumped in the spa for a few beers to relax after 14 plus hours of work and almost a 36 pack between the two of us.
Sunday we came back out to pull everything off for final welding. We quickly realized a little mistake of not thinking ahead. When we tacked on the axle side lower link brackets, we had the joint bolted up to it. Well when we went to pull the bolt out, we realized we put the bolt in from the wrong direction so it didn’t have enough room for the bolt to slide all the way out. Good think everything was just tacked on! I went to town on welding everything together while Kyle did some prep work and painted the new link tubes. Gloss black is all I had left, so now I have some shiny black links hahah. Another weird thing that happened was after I welded on the frame plates, the frame spread out by 5/8”! That was extremely frustrating since I just got done cutting my crossmember 1/4” the day before. We tried to use a hi-lift to pull the frame rails back together but were only able to get 1/4” out of it leaving 3/8” gap still. So we just made some smaller frame plates out of 3/16” plate to fill the gap while still keeping the structural integrity of things. From there the last thing needed was the rear crossmember between the gas tank and axle. Once that was done, we put the axle back in and cycled everything to insure final fitment. Everything was perfect! We checked pinion angle throughout travel and it changed by only about 1°. We also checked driveshaft plunge and that only changed by 1/2”. All in all I am extremely happy with how the link geometry turned out at this point.
Another awesome thing from yesterday was
@ eimkeith
was in So Cal this weekend and made it out to Yucaipa to hang out and have a beer on his way back to NC. It was awesome to finally meet the guy that I have been bouncing tons of ideas off of for the past couple years.
Now all I have left to do is, weld in the coil buckets, cut back my bumper a few inches, tub the wheel wells back a few inches, install the rear bumper and fuel tank. Then eventually get to installing the new hydro bumps. Still a ton of work left to do, but it’s all easy compared to what we accomplished this weekend.
Obviously some pics for you guys.
Everything that got cut off.
Motivation.
Stock links are 20” and 11” long
New links are about 42” and 42.5” long
A couple things to note in this picture.
1) The CAT is just hanging down since it was in the way of the new crossmember. This will be replaced by a muffler.
2) The lower link bracket on the axle will also act as the bump stop strike plate.
Frame side upper link mount on the frame plate.
I will post more pics as I get further into things. If anyone wants any specific pictures or measurements, let me know.
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05-21-2018, 12:13 PM
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Your the Man! Great work!!
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05-21-2018, 01:03 PM
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Knocked out some major work this weekend on the 4-link. For the most part things went pretty smoothly since I did a lot of prepping prior to this weekend and that took just about all the guesswork out.
Friday night I got home from work and immediately got to work pulling brake lines, fuel lines, bumper, fuel tank, and the axle.
Saturday my buddy Kyle came over and we went to town on cutting everything off the axle and frame. All 5 link mounts got cut off the axle, and 3 more crossmembers got cut off the frame rails, along with link mounts. I also needed to cut off the coil buckets too, so they can be rewelded back a few inches to match the axle. Once we got everything stripped down to bare frame (which is a hell of a lot of work), we started mocking things up and racking them in place. Once I cut the stock crossmember off behind the t-case, the frame rails pulled in almost 1/4”. So I had to trim the crossmember and brackets back a little bit to fit between the frame rails. Once we got it all in place, we pulled the axle under the truck and rear fitted the new links. Those lower links are heavy! While we were putting the links in place, I had the upper frame side link put in place and reached over to grab the bolt next to me while Kyle was wiggling his side into place. While he was wiggling his side, my side slid out and the joint landed right on my face next to my eye. Boy did that one hurt!! Even with all that beer we were drinking. Now I got a nice puffy red mark next to my eye. Luckily after that link was bolted in, we were ready to cycle the suspension, so the excitement washed away the pain along with celebratory beers once we determined everything was lined up properly and cycled perfectly. At that point we it was getting to late to work, so we cleaned up and jumped in the spa for a few beers to relax after 14 plus hours of work and almost a 36 pack between the two of us.
Sunday we came back out to pull everything off for final welding. We quickly realized a little mistake of not thinking ahead. When we tacked on the axle side lower link brackets, we had the joint bolted up to it. Well when we went to pull the bolt out, we realized we put the bolt in from the wrong direction so it didn’t have enough room for the bolt to slide all the way out. Good think everything was just tacked on! I went to town on welding everything together while Kyle did some prep work and painted the new link tubes. Gloss black is all I had left, so now I have some shiny black links hahah. Another weird thing that happened was after I welded on the frame plates, the frame spread out by 5/8”! That was extremely frustrating since I just got done cutting my crossmember 1/4” the day before. We tried to use a hi-lift to pull the frame rails back together but were only able to get 1/4” out of it leaving 3/8” gap still. So we just made some smaller frame plates out of 3/16” plate to fill the gap while still keeping the structural integrity of things. From there the last thing needed was the rear crossmember between the gas tank and axle. Once that was done, we put the axle back in and cycled everything to insure final fitment. Everything was perfect! We checked pinion angle throughout travel and it changed by only about 1°. We also checked driveshaft plunge and that only changed by 1/2”. All in all I am extremely happy with how the link geometry turned out at this point.
Another awesome thing from yesterday was
@ eimkeith
was in So Cal this weekend and made it out to Yucaipa to hang out and have a beer on his way back to NC. It was awesome to finally meet the guy that I have been bouncing tons of ideas off of for the past couple years.
Now all I have left to do is, weld in the coil buckets, cut back my bumper a few inches, tub the wheel wells back a few inches, install the rear bumper and fuel tank. Then eventually get to installing the new hydro bumps. Still a ton of work left to do, but it’s all easy compared to what we accomplished this weekend.
I will post more pics as I get further into things. If anyone wants any specific pictures or measurements, let me know.
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Beautiful work. Hope I can make it down to run the Dusy trail with you guys.
Did I miss what springs you are going to be running?
Any interest in selling your rear links? Looking at making my own but I like saving time.
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05-21-2018, 02:38 PM
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Well done Alex. That's awesome!
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Your the Man! Great work!!
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Thanks! It’s a lot of work but should be worth the effort.
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Beautiful work. Hope I can make it down to run the Dusy trail with you guys.
Did I miss what springs you are going to be running?
Any interest in selling your rear links? Looking at making my own but I like saving time.
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I’m looking forward to the Dusy Ershim trip even more now with all this extra ground clearance.
Springs are still gonna be the same LC 8 wraps that I’ve been running. Eventually I’ll do coilovers back there.
Yeah dude the links are about to be for sale. I’ll PM you the info about them.
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Well done Alex. That's awesome!
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Idk who Alex is, but sounds like he did a good job!
PS, my name is Steven and I appreciate the compliment
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05-21-2018, 06:17 PM
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Well crap. Well done Steven. If I had a nickel for every name I've screwed up. I'm excited to see how you tub the rear. I don't think I've seen that before.
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Beautiful work. Hope I can make it down to run the Dusy trail with you guys.
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I’m looking forward to the Dusy Ershim trip even more now with all this extra ground clearance.
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That's a pretty sweet weekend you had there buddy. Very nicely done.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm really wanting to get the Dusy done. If all three of us end up on the trail I'm pretty sure we'll be just fine. I'll still be rocking my 33's so I'll be the lowest ground clearance in the group. Damn, now I really need to get that crawl box in. lol
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05-21-2018, 08:26 PM
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Well crap. Well done Steven. If I had a nickel for every name I've screwed up. I'm excited to see how you tub the rear. I don't think I've seen that before.
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Hahah the funny part about you messing up my name, is that I messed up your name the other day too. We were talking about the Calico trip and the Anza trip that you told me about. I mentioned your name as JBurt, and my wife said "WHO?". I scratched my head and thought, is it Jim or Jason or ??...
I don't think I've seen anyone tubbing the wheel wells like I plan to either. My long term goal is to have the bump stops set to be about 1/2" below the frame rail to get a few more inches of up travel compared to stock. Being able to tuck 35's another 3" higher than stock is gonna take some work.
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That's a pretty sweet weekend you had there buddy. Very nicely done.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm really wanting to get the Dusy done. If all three of us end up on the trail I'm pretty sure we'll be just fine. I'll still be rocking my 33's so I'll be the lowest ground clearance in the group. Damn, now I really need to get that crawl box in. lol
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Thanks!
You'll just have to be a better driver than us if you are on 33's. Well you are on 295's, right? At least you'll be dual locked and dual cased by then. I'm just gonna be happy to be dual locked. If things work out quickly, I might be able to have my t-case clocked by then too. That'll give me another 3' or so clearance for a flat belly.
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05-21-2018, 08:41 PM
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'm just gonna be happy to be dual locked.
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What locker are you putting up front?
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What locker are you putting up front?
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Gonna go with an ARB. The Harrop is too expensive and I don’t want an auto locker up front. ARB is the only sensible option for the front of our rigs.
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05-22-2018, 10:58 AM
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Saw this on instagram yesterday, great work! Patiently waiting it to be done now.. but it's looking awesome! Also curious to see how you implement the hydro bumps
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05-22-2018, 11:11 AM
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Knocked out some major work this weekend on the 4-link. For the most part things went pretty smoothly since I did a lot of prepping prior to this weekend and that took just about all the guesswork out.
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All I can say right now is "Holy Crap!!!" That looks sexy as Hell! Great work!
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