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HID install, 2007 Sport w/ stock projectors *Pics*

I'm new on the forum and want to try and contribute something before going off and asking a million questions about lifts, tires and whatnot.

Here is some info and pics from installing a Morimoto HID kit from theretrofitsource. It took about an hour start to finish done outside during a light snowfall- pretty easy stuff. I don't claim this is the best way or to be an expert. This is just what worked for me.

I used the stock projector housings but will probably upgrade to the Mini DS2 projectors when the weather (Minnesota) is better (more on that below).

So here we have one of the HID bulbs. Since 4R headlights have external wiring, we can lose the pass-through. Just cut the wires and pull them from the grommet. Don't touch the glass! TRS included some alcohol wipes for cleaning the bulbs. I do this regardless since you don't know how they've been handled from manufacture to your possession. I also save the protective foam and plastic covers for the factory bulbs.




Passenger side

Below is the passenger side bulb installed and the factory headlight plug disconnected. This won't be re-used so seal it up with some electrical tape.



I mounted the ballast with 3M Dual Lock tape. Its like velcro, but both sides are little plastic nubs that lock together- no fabric. Be sure to wipe down the area with a cleaner before applying the tape.



Here is the ignitor mounted the same fashion as the ballast



Everything wired up. The power lead from the relay to the ballast is plugged in and the ground wire connect to a factory grounding point.

Note: I ran the power lead from the relay under the radiator bracket (tucked in after this pic was taken). There is a factory wire loom under there you can connect to with some zip ties. Access requires removing the plastic trim which is just a bunch of expanding plastic clips. Don't lose them!




Driver's Side


On to the driver's side. I assume when you popped the hood, you realized the battery would need to come out for this. The factory bulb has been removed and HID bulb installed. Don't cover up the factory headlight plug. This will connect to the relay harness to switch the lights on/off.



Wired up! I used a 3/16" bit to drill a hole for the relay bracket. I also utilized the supplied bracket for the ballast on this side (I later went back and did this on the passenger side too). It was a more secure installation assuming you don't mind a few new holes in the engine compartment. I wrapped several turns of duct tape about 1/2" down the drill bit to prevent it from plunging in. Dab a bit of grease on the threads of the sheet metal screws and you're good to go.

I zip-tied the ignitor to the factory wiring as it was convenient. You can also see the hole for the factory ground point (removed to take out battery) where the relay ground will go. I ran the positive power wire from the relays in front of the battery tray and around to the back of the battery before connecting to the positive terminal (zip-tied to factory wiring). There's plenty of length to do this and its kept out of the way.



Once the battery's back in everything is tucked away for the most part.

With respect to the mounting the ballasts, I'm sure tape or the brackets are both fine (Note: The tape does not come with the kit, it was purchased seperately). I just changed my mind midway through and used the brackets. Below is an image of both. It's just two small torx screws holding the brackets on.



*When you're all done, you'll need to normalize the driver's window, rear window and sunroof. This is done by rolling them down/back about half-way, then rolling them up, holding the button for about a second after they're fully closed. (Thanks to this forum for that info, I would have been lost otherwise)

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the results. I like that there are two separate relays so if one craps out, you're not stuck in the dark. It's definately a lot more light on the road. I'll post some beam shots asap.

My reason for mentioning the Mini DS2 projectors in the beginning is the beam pattern of the factory projectors. While there is a defined, stepped cutoff and you won't be blinding oncoming traffic, it's not as clean a pattern as it could be. I can only assume some output is being lost here due to their inefficiency.

I hope this was helpful and I'm happy to answer any questions I can.

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Why not use something other than D2S? Use some Maxima or RX8 projectors, they are a direct bolt in and are alot better than D2S. I am running the rx330 afs projectors in mine with E30 lens and trimmed the cut off shield a bit.

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On the contrary, today I had my HID headlight system removed and discarded. The original owner installed it and one light went very dim. I just asked my mechanic to return it back to original since I simply wasn't sure of the quality off the system that was installed. When I find out more about their pros and cons then I'll reconsider.
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On the contrary, today I had my HID headlight system removed and discarded. The original owner installed it and one light went very dim. I just asked my mechanic to return it back to original since I simply wasn't sure of the quality off the system that was installed. When I find out more about their pros and cons then I'll reconsider.
Here are some informative articles on HIDs

HID Newb Crash Course

Everything you ever wanted to know about HID bulbs.
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On the contrary, today I had my HID headlight system removed and discarded. The original owner installed it and one light went very dim. I just asked my mechanic to return it back to original since I simply wasn't sure of the quality off the system that was installed. When I find out more about their pros and cons then I'll reconsider.
Well, there is the problem. Most mechanics know squat about HIDs. I'm sure he does a fine job doing mechanical work, but WIDESPREAD knowledge of HIDs (components/quality/etc) is low.

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Some fine reading there..............

So yeah, people should REALLY head to the #RetrofitSource and get quality components and excellent customer service. I've been on both sides and now refuse to get them elsewhere.

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This isn't going to be a ton of help, but I know i've read somewhere that you can slightly bend the piece of metal that creates the cut off to improve the pattern. Something about a squirrel finder.
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Well, there is the problem. Most mechanics know squat about HIDs. I'm sure he does a fine job doing mechanical work, but WIDESPREAD knowledge of HIDs (components/quality/etc) is low.



Some fine reading there..............

So yeah, people should REALLY head to the #RetrofitSource and get quality components and excellent customer service. I've been on both sides and now refuse to get them elsewhere.

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This isn't going to be a ton of help, but I know i've read somewhere that you can slightly bend the piece of metal that creates the cut off to improve the pattern. Something about a squirrel finder.
It won't really help that great, the stock projectors are still a halogen based projector instead of a true HID projector. True they should be better than putting hids in a reflector housing, but still not the best. Today you can pick up some HID projectors for nearly nothing. Hell, my projectors were $130 plus tuning, in all I am only $250 for projectors, but nothing compares to them. Not even the stock RX330 headlights (even though I am using the same projector, mine are tuned).
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It won't really help that great, the stock projectors are still a halogen based projector instead of a true HID projector. True they should be better than putting hids in a reflector housing, but still not the best. Today you can pick up some HID projectors for nearly nothing. Hell, my projectors were $130 plus tuning, in all I am only $250 for projectors, but nothing compares to them. Not even the stock RX330 headlights (even though I am using the same projector, mine are tuned).
I guess...

It's hard to quantify "nothing compares" though. I mean I just read a thread where 5th gen guys are justfying the installation of HID's in a reflector style housing and saying the glare and cut off "isn't that bad." And that opinion seems to be based on how many people flash their brights at them...................


Those of us with factory projector housings are lucky in my estimation, as we can benefit from the optic properties and proper utilization of an HID.
But then you have the $40 ebay HID's vs $200 name brand kits with Phillips bulbs.

Now you're advocating opening the headlight and removing the factory projector to replace it with another projector... because nothing compares?



I'm not knocking it. Everyone has their thing and if you don't mind making the effort for the higher quality glass etc... thats cool. I just don't get all the....

the...

ugh..



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Why not use something other than D2S? Use some Maxima or RX8 projectors, they are a direct bolt in and are alot better than D2S. I am running the rx330 afs projectors in mine with E30 lens and trimmed the cut off shield a bit.
Honestly, I didn't know there were additional options that were a drop-in mod. I thought most would require significant modification to the headlight housing. Given this, I'll definitely look into other projectors.

Thanks for the info!
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I guess...

It's hard to quantify "nothing compares" though. I mean I just read a thread where 5th gen guys are justfying the installation of HID's in a reflector style housing and saying the glare and cut off "isn't that bad." And that opinion seems to be based on how many people flash their brights at them...................


Those of us with factory projector housings are lucky in my estimation, as we can benefit from the optic properties and proper utilization of an HID.
But then you have the $40 ebay HID's vs $200 name brand kits with Phillips bulbs.

Now you're advocating opening the headlight and removing the factory projector to replace it with another projector... because nothing compares?



I'm not knocking it. Everyone has their thing and if you don't mind making the effort for the higher quality glass etc... thats cool. I just don't get all the....

the...

ugh..



^ that
Each to their own. Yeah I will say nothing compares because, honestly not many people will tune their projectors significantly as mine are. IMHO, if anyone is willing to mod their car, SUV, or truck, they will mod it properly and do things properly. Yeah, there are people looking to take short-cuts and what not, but where is the pride in that. Retrofitting isn't for everyone. As for the 5th gen guys, well that's their opinion, a very judgmental one. First of all you're putting yourself and others in danger while running HIDs in a reflector housing, there is a reason many cars do not come with HIDs in reflector housings. Yes some run D2rs, which are a D2 hid bulb run in reflectors (Lexus used these in their cars during the early 2000s until the projector craze). Like I said the factory projector is only halogen based, it has a frensel lens, its not the best out there. A lot of the guys on this site like to open their headlights and paint them black, so why not take it a step farther and replace it with a direct drop in, for added safety and visibility?
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Honestly, I didn't know there were additional options that were a drop-in mod. I thought most would require significant modification to the headlight housing. Given this, I'll definitely look into other projectors.

Thanks for the info!
No problem! Not a lot of them require that much modification. My rx330s did, but we only had to trim about an inch to 1.5 inches. Good luck!
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