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Originally Posted by tuborg_15
So how do you like your ride now? Do you think your ride is better now or it was good with the Xreas?
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So, I guess you may be interested in the whole story then:
It rides very nicely now on-road. I would say it inspires more real confidence the driver can count on under any road conditions. The shocks and springs handle uneven roads at high speeds competently and the Addco sway bars keep the truck flat and planted under virtually any conditions. Certainly my limit of traction is in the tires, being fat all-terrain tires. The truck, delightfully, approaches the limit of adhesion and lets you know you're approaching the limit with some squealing and feedback in the steering wheel. The Addco sways put more weight into the inside tires under cornering, so I'm confident to say that it'll corner harder/faster than it did on the stock 32/24mm bars.
My ex has a 3rd gen that rides on 5100s and OME springs and many maneuvers and rough roads that are dramatic in her truck are smooth as butter in mine.
I would assume though that my off-road capability via articulation will be diminished because of the sway bars. The XREAS could move weight to the inside wheels using hydraulic force... my truck does it with the steel sway bars... thus, the XREAS would provide on-road benefit without sacrifice of offroad articulation.
It's been said that the heavier sway bars will cause a see-saw effect through bumps/holes/surface changes, however I have found the opposite when negotiating large embankments and approaches to parking lots and such. Before the Addco bars, the truck would bounce back and forth after being upset going through the approach, where the two axles have to articulate in opposite directions. Now the truck blasts through it without hesitation.
Note I drove for a year on the 6110/5160/Moog springs without the Addcos, using the stock sway bars and all new poly bushings through the entire sway control system. I had to replace the sway bar system bushings because the truck felt very tedious, nervous, and generally inspired zero confidence once the XREAS was out and 6110/5160s were in. The ancient bushings had so much slop that the sway control system wasn't even being activated. (note this is probably a testimony to effectiveness of the XREAS and sway control... never noticed it before they were gone).
I upgraded to the Addco bars because I was told by passengers that the rear seat was like riding a rollercoaster through turns. I deduced that the XREAS would provide significant sway control (making up for the tiny sway bar in the back) and removing it would certainly have the effect passengers described. Anyway, the Addcos are a vast improvement and riding in the back is normal now.
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Originally Posted by tuborg_15
I want a little bit of lift too but not a lot so that the passengers sitting in the back seat suffer. If I keep RAS and adjust their height the rear suspension will become stiffer. I have not had a chance to ride in a lifted 4runner so I dont know for sure how the ride feels with a stiffer suspension.
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No two lift kits will be identical, and some will handle on-road better than others. It really depends on who designed the kit and what they wanted out of it. Hopefully someone designed it and didn't just slap-bang something together for valve setup and call it good.
Just keep in mind that you're replacing an engineered system: The RAS and XREAS were designed to work with each other to get a specific result. Hence why I experienced so many trials and tribulations to get back to amicable handling. Throwing any old shocks and whatever springs into the truck will make it handle... just might not handle that "great". Great is a subjective term, as well.
Confident & competent handling is +120km/hr across broken and undulating pavement in a short passing zone under wide open throttle, and thinking you could have probably gone faster but wanted to "take it easy". Negotiating speed bumps and driving over traffic control equipment aren't live and die moments... yet seem to be used often to relate how the "ride feels".
Anyway, hope that helps.