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Old 10-14-2012, 07:14 PM #1
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Limited to trail conversion

Hey guys I know there are a lot of threads that detail the differences between the two models but I am preparing to buy a '13 limited but I want the kdss suspension, crawl control and the multi terrain select. Has anyone heard of this? I have a 3rd gen sr5 and I am ready to upgrade!
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Hey guys I know there are a lot of threads that detail the differences between the two models but I am preparing to buy a '13 limited but I want the kdss suspension, crawl control and the multi terrain select. Has anyone heard of this? I have a 3rd gen sr5 and I am ready to upgrade!
Not happening. Adding KDSS would require a new frame, new control arms, new sway bars, new hydrolic lines all the way around the vehicle, electronic KDSS sensors, KDSS ECM/computer module, etc... you get the picture

Just get ADDCO swaybars with a quick disconnect if you are not comfortable with the on-road handling of the 4Runner. Off road, your non-KDSS vehicle should perform just as well (or better if you remove your swaybars) than one with KDSS.

It's hard to add options from one trim-line to another. Toyota left out any additional wiring harnesses you didn't pay for.
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Step 1: Buy a trail
Step 2: Buy all of my limited trim pieces
Step 3: Install aftermarket leather
Step 4: Have a TE that looks like a Limited!


But seriously for what you want, your only option is to start with a Trail. You can convert a Limited to LOOK like a Trail, but you can't add "the kdss suspension, crawl control and the multi terrain select."

OR, start with a limited, upgrade the suspension, add a rear locker, convert to trail edition exterior. And you will have the best of both worlds.
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Not happening. Adding KDSS would require a new frame, new control arms, new sway bars, new hydrolic lines all the way around the vehicle, electronic KDSS sensors, KDSS ECM/computer module, etc... you get the picture

Just get ADDCO swaybars with a quick disconnect if you are not comfortable with the on-road handling of the 4Runner. Off road, your non-KDSS vehicle should perform just as well (or better if you remove your swaybars) than one with KDSS.

It's hard to add options from one trim-line to another. Toyota left out any additional wiring harnesses you didn't pay for.
Dad has a 2011 Limited and I have a 2012 Trail...there are only a few options that I'd like to add. Agreed that the Trail is the best starting point.
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Thanks guys! Your probably right. I love the smart key and pop out running boards but I would much rather have stock off road goodies! I don't understand why Toyota wouldn't allow leather in the trail edition when you can option it on the sr5 and limited.
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Also I'm gonna have the dealer put the tire/wheel combo from the rock warriors on for me
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Also I'm gonna have the dealer put the tire/wheel combo from the rock warriors on for me
Are you going to negotiate a swap or buy them out right?
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Save 10-15,000 and get a Lexus GX470. KDSS with the luxury of the Limited style.
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Save 10-15,000 and get a Lexus GX470. KDSS with the luxury of the Limited style.
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Off road, your non-KDSS vehicle should perform just as well (or better if you remove your swaybars) than one with KDSS.
Poppycock good sir! This sounds like a line of thought a car salesman would say if a TE wasn't in stock. I can personally attest to how BA KDSS is offroad.
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Are you going to negotiate a swap or buy them out right?
I would swap them... I'm not a huge fan of the wheels especially the 20's on the limited
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I would swap them... I'm not a huge fan of the wheels especially the 20's on the limited
Well your going to have a hard time fitting the Tundra rock warrior wheels on considering they are 5x150 bolt pattern with 14mm studs. 4runners are 6x139.7 with 12mm studs.
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Poppycock good sir! This sounds like a line of thought a car salesman would say if a TE wasn't in stock. I can personally attest to how BA KDSS is offroad.
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Well your going to have a hard time fitting the Tundra rock warrior wheels on considering they are 5x150 bolt pattern with 14mm studs. 4runners are 6x139.7 with 12mm studs.
I thought they had the same style for the 4runners? I know it was an option for '12.

Also... afterlooking at harper7's exterior conversion thread... I was thinking about doing something similar, but what happens if a limited comes with the auto running boards? Will they still be able to replace the trim? And will they also be able to put the TE hood on a limited?

Sorry about all the questions guys... I'm laid up from a bad motorcycle accident and can't help but dream about my new runner!
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just get the TE and add heated leather seats.

seriously, you want the off-road goodies AND the pop-out running boards.....you probably don't need the off-road goodies.
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