10-03-2017, 08:44 PM
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will be buying one of these as soon as my monies allows it
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10-04-2017, 01:24 PM
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I guess I don't see how this is a factor. I'm still going to be running fender liners, and like everyone else here I will need to cut the very bottom of mine and stuff them up into the new bumper.
Bumpers + fender lines don't create a water-tight barrier. Are you saying that because of the increased angles in the front and more of the tire/wheel well exposed that water is a problem? Because if that's the case all aftermarket bumpers will require a snorkel...which doesn't seem too accurate to me...but I may be wrong.
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The key to a safe water crossing is establishing a front bow wake. Without the front bumper cover or fender lining and the high angle of the Pelfreybilt bumper water will be passing through into the wheel well with minimal obstruction. If you have ever taken apart your passenger side wheel well you can see how close that stock intake is to the top of the tire. Pelfreybilt also calls this out in their install instruction as a thing to watch out for.
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10-04-2017, 01:37 PM
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The key to a safe water crossing is establishing a front bow wake.
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Agreed! The bow wake is important, but if you only rely on that, you are asking for trouble. If you will be doing water crossings where the waterline may approach the intake, you NEED a snorkel, otherwise......well, a new engine may be in your future, and worse than that, when you hydrolock the rest of your car will be overtaken potentially. One piece of terrain (under the water) or brake could blow your bow wake.....
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10-04-2017, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtremluck
The key to a safe water crossing is establishing a front bow wake. Without the front bumper cover or fender lining and the high angle of the Pelfreybilt bumper water will be passing through into the wheel well with minimal obstruction. If you have ever taken apart your passenger side wheel well you can see how close that stock intake is to the top of the tire. Pelfreybilt also calls this out in their install instruction as a thing to watch out for.
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Oh I completely agree, I just wasn't sure what you were getting at 
And yeah, I noticed how close the stock intake is to the top of the fender liner by the tire. It was the same way on my Tacoma.
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10-04-2017, 02:52 PM
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any news on the rear bumper?
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10-04-2017, 03:37 PM
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any news on the rear bumper?
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Not done. Waiting on a few details.
You’ll see it soon. It’ll be on my truck first. So stay tuned.
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10-04-2017, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TerraCrawler
Agreed! The bow wake is important, but if you only rely on that, you are asking for trouble. If you will be doing water crossings where the waterline may approach the intake, you NEED a snorkel, otherwise......well, a new engine may be in your future, and worse than that, when you hydrolock the rest of your car will be overtaken potentially. One piece of terrain (under the water) or brake could blow your bow wake.....
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Yup! That's why I have a snorkel 
For instance I wouldn't try this with a stock intake and no front OEM bumper cover.
Ironically this exact water crossing (Mojave River) was what compelled me to buy a snorkel.
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10-04-2017, 04:50 PM
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Yup! That's why I have a snorkel
For instance I wouldn't try this with a stock intake and no front OEM bumper cover.
Ironically this exact water crossing (Mojave River) was what compelled me to buy a snorkel.
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That water crossing isn't nearly as deep as it's made to sound or look. That photo shows the bow wave (it's not a wake) which is usually much taller than the following water levels.
Stock vehicles can do the water crossing for the Mojave Rd. In fact we did it about 10 times for photos:
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10-04-2017, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LawnDart
That water crossing isn't nearly as deep as it's made to sound or look. That photo shows the bow wave (it's not a wake) which is usually much taller than the following water levels.
Stock vehicles can do the water crossing for the Mojave Rd. In fact we did it about 10 times for photos:
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when we were there it was after a heavy rain. I went in about 20% through and a lifted Dodge Ram in front of me hydrolocked his engine and had to be winched out. That was enough for me to turn around.
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10-10-2017, 09:28 PM
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01-21-2018, 11:04 AM
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Just ordered my front bumper this past week! Now I'm looking into which for lights to purchase. Does anyone know the dimensions of the two fog light openings?
I've just been looking into lights that are similar to the Baja designs lights they suggest but want sure if there are other restrictions I should worry about.
Thanks!
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03-29-2018, 02:34 PM
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04-10-2018, 11:13 AM
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04-19-2018, 05:50 PM
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