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Old 04-26-2018, 12:00 PM #31
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Good to know. I'd love to see how these turn out then.
don't think i'm getting one. but definitely interesting.

Mainly because i'm happy with my alpine x208u. Unless they can somehow upgrade the heater controls to give me something automated hah.
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Those pheonix ones looks interesting, but I'm not quite sold on them. I'd love a larger screen than the standard 7" double din, but I don't want to lose the HVAC dials. I'm also a little wary of buying from a company I've never heard about, it seems like too much of a one-off product to have much support if something goes wrong. They do look great though.

I'd definitely stay away from those cheap Android units on Amazon, I went through 3 or 4 of them and they were all atrocious.

I love Android Auto on my Pioneer NEX4200. I think a head unit with AA is gonna be the easiest/ best option for an Android head unit, even though that's not really the same. I spent a lot of time looking for a head unit that ran Android well and couldn't find anything that was worth keeping, so I settled for AA.
From what they said, they'd retain some sort of HVAC dials. My goal would be to ensure that the two big knobs stay...

I envision the screen could look like this, but they have not confirmed it yet.

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don't think i'm getting one. but definitely interesting.

Mainly because i'm happy with my alpine x208u. Unless they can somehow upgrade the heater controls to give me something automated hah.
Same, I'm happy with my Pioneer for now and would rather spend the money on a rear bumper.

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From what they said, they'd retain some sort of HVAC dials. My goal would be to ensure that the two big knobs stay...

I envision the screen could look like this, but they have not confirmed it yet.

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I like that. I'm curious to see what they come up with.
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I got one of these for my rig, knowing that it might be a bit janky. There is an open source ROM floating around for it, which helps, but it's still stuck a few versions of Android back. One of my goals is to try to update that ROM, actually; I'll post here if I do.

It's been more or less fine. The GPU isn't great, so it struggles for example with zooming out in Google Maps if you hit the "show alternate routes" button. That said, it runs full-on Google Play Music (or Spotify, or whatever), as well as video apps for road trip breaks, and has two Bluetooth radios (can act as host and client). I'm happy to answer any questions about it.
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From what they said, they'd retain some sort of HVAC dials. My goal would be to ensure that the two big knobs stay...

I envision the screen could look like this, but they have not confirmed it yet.

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I'd be interest in one of this, but there's a lot of horizontal real estate there, specially if you replace the volume/tuning knobs. I'd focus on using that space (wider than taller) rather than messing around with the AC Controls.
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I'd be interest in one of this, but there's a lot of horizontal real estate there, specially if you replace the volume/tuning knobs. I'd focus on using that space (wider than taller) rather than messing around with the AC Controls.
100% agree on this. You can probably fit a 10" or bigger screen in there, and I really don't want to lose the HVAC knobs to touchscreen controls.

Also, screen resolution is high on my list. I can't believe that Pioneer's flagship head units only have freaking 800x480 resolution.

One more thing that's high on the list: Fast bootup times. All the Android head units I tried took over 30 seconds to start up, which wasn't a big deal at first but got annoying really freaking quick.
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100% agree on this. You can probably fit a 10" or bigger screen in there, and I really don't want to lose the HVAC knobs to touchscreen controls.

Also, screen resolution is high on my list. I can't believe that Pioneer's flagship head units only have freaking 800x480 resolution.

One more thing that's high on the list: Fast bootup times. All the Android head units I tried took over 30 seconds to start up, which wasn't a big deal at first but got annoying really freaking quick.
The 10 inch screen, if laid horizontally, would interfere with the vents and the AC knobs. They might come up with something, but I don't know.

I agree on the bootup times - has to be quick. Looking at their videos of other units, it seems to be comparatively quick.

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The 10 inch screen, if laid horizontally, would interfere with the vents and the AC knobs. They might come up with something, but I don't know.
I was going from memory so 10" was a bit ambitious (hold the jokes...)

But looking at this picture I stole, that's a standard 7" double din screen. I think it would be possible to finesse an 8 or 9" screen in the standard aspect ratios, or possibly make the screen ultra-wide to cover the empty sides there. I'd much prefer that over a vertical screen that cuts out the HVAC knobs.

It would be cool to make it split screen, have the left side show Nav and the right side show sensor readouts. My current head unit plugs into the OBDII port and I can switch between Nav and sensors using the steering wheel controls, I would love to have them both up at the same time. Or you can have Nav on the left, music on the right, etc.

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I was going from memory so 10" was a bit ambitious (hold the jokes...)

But looking at this picture I stole, that's a standard 7" double din screen. I think it would be possible to finesse an 8 or 9" screen in the standard aspect ratios, or possibly make the screen ultra-wide to cover the empty sides there. I'd much prefer that over a vertical screen that cuts out the HVAC knobs.

It would be cool to make it split screen, have the left side show Nav and the right side show sensor readouts. My current head unit plugs into the OBDII port and I can switch between Nav and sensors using the steering wheel controls, I would love to have them both up at the same time. Or you can have Nav on the left, music on the right, etc.

Holding the jokes......

The 10" screen is 7x9, so even horizontal for that would be ambitious. The one size up is (I think) 10x8. They claim to only offer those two sizes.

As for the other stuff - maybe in v25.0 they'll do it Android Head Unit?

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Holding the jokes......

The 10" screen is 7x9, so even horizontal for that would be ambitious. The one size up is (I think) 10x8. They claim to only offer those two sizes.

As for the other stuff - maybe in v25.0 they'll do it Android Head Unit?

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Lol yea I figured my idea was more of a pipe dream and not a production model, but I'm still interested to see what they come up with. That's why they're designing this and not me.
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There is no way that you'll get 300 people to put down money for this. I'd be shocked if you got 30 people.

I read through most of a thread on the Tundra forum, and while they look cool at first, most people had some sort of issue. Some people sold their radios or got rid of them. It was a mess.

I love the idea, but it's cheap and you get what you pay for.
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Hey everyone,

Heard back from Phoenix. They have mocked up some possible variants of how it would look.

For this one, the stock AC controls would be retained. It would be about a 7" screen.

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For this one, they'd ship with all new knobs, which would replace the stock AC module. This one would be either a 10" or 12".

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They also said they are thinking of posting this on their website as a pre-order listing, and that way it would be the best to gauge the interest. In addition, they dropped down the number to 200, versus the original 300.

Which one (the vertical or horizontal) would folks prefer?
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God - I would love the vertical one, but feel like with the limited models I'd be scared of losing my dual temp controls and such. In that case, I'd be fine with the horizontal unless the vertical ones keep functionality.
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love that vertical screen! will order one if it becomes available.
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Which one (the vertical or horizontal) would folks prefer?
Vertical, fo'sho!
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