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Thai · 08-22-2009, 08:58 AM

Nice short video of production of G and some off-roading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A53Mx2xsRdI

Thai · 10-13-2009, 10:05 PM

Homemade video of trip to Graz where the G is made: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../0/1pGR0gx5tqQ

Time 1:38 and on shows the handmade nature of the G.

Thai · 10-22-2009, 06:05 PM

2010 Mercedes G brochure: http://www.mercedes-benz.nl/content/..._W463_MY10.pdf

Cool fact (for me): "Up to 4-mm thick in places, the G-class frame is held together by more than 6400 weld spots. As well as that, it is surface-treated and waxed. The vehicle underfloor, meanwhile, has an additional plastic coating."

Theothertyler · 10-23-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Thai

2010 Mercedes G brochure: http://www.mercedes-benz.nl/content/..._W463_MY10.pdf

Yes please.

Thai · 11-08-2009, 03:02 PM

Some nice photos of the G underneath...on a 2007 G500 borrowed from another forum:

CJ3Flyr · 11-12-2009, 10:53 PM

Ok, torsional rigidity is tough to manage with frame rails that close together, period. I have to say hats off to the overall package though. I am sure the rigidity is adequate and I love the exhaust and nothing hanging low... The rear links could use some skids but so could everything else on the market...

Thai · 11-13-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ3Flyr

Ok, torsional rigidity is tough to manage with frame rails that close together, period. I have to say hats off to the overall package though. I am sure the rigidity is adequate and I love the exhaust and nothing hanging low... The rear links could use some skids but so could everything else on the market...

I don't think that i have ever heard of cracked fenders on the G!

The frame steel thickness is superior to even that of the Land Cruiser (4 mm vs. 3.2 mm)! The six crossmembers are thick tubes in itself...and they are welded through BOTH sides of the frame. (Ford makes a big deal about this welding process...and they only do it on a few of the crossmembers...here, all 6 crossmembers are welded this way.) Every part of the frame is then dipped in primer and covered in thick wax for rust protection. This partly why the G500 weighs MORE than a Land Cruiser 100 despite having the same dimension as a 3rd gen 4runner.

Actually, if you look carefully, the control arm links are attached to the SIDES of the frame, not underneath the frame like in Toyota (and other manufacturer's) trucks. Therefore, control arm skids are not needed at all!

In fact, even where the control arms attach to the side of the frame, there is a small metal covering to protect the actual attachment point! Actually, most of the attachment points underneath are hidden behind a metal plate.

In addition, the control arms (or radius arms) are forged solid steel...so, it is gonna hard to bend those things...you probably destroy the bushings and attachments before you bend those!

In the pics below, you can see arrangements of the crossmembers...2nd pic of the actual thickness of the crossmember (front)...and in the 3rd pic, the actual underbody shot of my G500 and you can see where the control arms attach to the side of the frame...and finally, you gotta have a strong frame to be able to handle these extra "options"....

haddix · 11-13-2009, 01:47 AM

damn they drive fast.

Thai · 11-25-2009, 08:14 PM

Cool commercial: YouTube - Mercedes Benz G Class - Fireworks

bovine · 01-26-2010, 01:51 PM

i work with g-wagons a lot since i serve in the Canadian army. it takes a special course to drive it due to the complicted diff system and all those damn buttons. they are awesome cars. i don't really like the turbo diesel in it and its electro-limited to 120 KM/H in our versions. the turbo diesel is fine normally.once you add on the armour package the car starts to get real sloppy. with the armour package, each door is a whopping 220 pounds plus all the belly plates and side armour. they are usually used as "gun trucks", providing mobile machine gun support for dismounted troops while the big guns whack the hard targets.
in afghanistan if you parked the car on a uphill slant during a patrol the door wouldnt open because its too heavy, and if you parked facing down hill the damn doors won't close. we no longer use them "outside the wire" because they don't fare well with IED's.
so far, other than IED's the g-wagon has proved to be a valuable asset. i was driving a GMC MIL-verado on a mud road when it suddenly swerved and went into the ditch. it was in such deep mud the driver door wouldnt open. i radioed for help and 2 minutes later a g-wagon driven by a Sgt. showed up. the first thought i had was, no f'ckin' way that thing will drag this out. well, the g-wagon proved to be a torque monster. it was slipping side to side like a pendulum but in less than 5 mintes the stuck truck was free.

i wouldn't mind one of those open top special forces vehicles as a summer car lol. with the mk. 19 and MG3 on it of course.

Thai · 01-27-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bovine

i work with g-wagons a lot since i serve in the Canadian army. it takes a special course to drive it due to the complicted diff system and all those damn buttons. they are awesome cars. i don't really like the turbo diesel in it and its electro-limited to 120 in our versions. the turbo diesel is fine normally.once you add on the armour package the car starts to get real sloppy. with the armour package, each door is a whopping 220 pounds plus all the belly plates and side armour. they are usually used as "gun trucks", providing mobile machine gun support for dismounted troops while the big guns whack the hard targets.
in afghanistan if you parked the car on a uphill slant during a patrol the door wouldnt open because its too heavy, and if you parked facing down hill the damn doors won't close. we no longer use them "outside the wire" because they don't fare well with IED's.
so far, other than IED's the g-wagon has proved to be a valuable asset. i was driving a GMC MIL-verado on a mud road when it suddenly swerved and went into the ditch. it was in such deep mud the driver door wouldnt open. i radioed for help and 2 minutes later a g-wagon driven by a Sgt. showed up. the first thought i had was, no f'ckin' way that thing will drag this out. well, the g-wagon proved to be a torque monster. it was slipping side to side like a pendulum but in less than 5 mintes the stuck truck was free.

i wouldn't mind one of those open top special forces vehicles as a summer car lol. with the mk. 19 and MG3 on it of course.

Cool...thanks for the report on the military G's!!!

08-22-2009, 08:58 AM	#121 (permalink)
Thai Snowflake, Guns, & Texas! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 11,905	Nice short video of production of G and some off-roading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A53Mx2xsRdI __________________ 2010 Toyota Prius V with ATP (daily driver) 2008 Toyota Sienna Salsa Red Pearl 2wd Limited (urban family "land cruiser") 2009 Acura TSX Palladium (wife's car) Off-roading Videos of My G I AM FAMOUS!! "Everyday is Halloween on the Internet"

10-13-2009, 10:05 PM	#122 (permalink)
Thai Snowflake, Guns, & Texas! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 11,905	Homemade video of trip to Graz where the G is made: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../0/1pGR0gx5tqQ Time 1:38 and on shows the handmade nature of the G. __________________ 2010 Toyota Prius V with ATP (daily driver) 2008 Toyota Sienna Salsa Red Pearl 2wd Limited (urban family "land cruiser") 2009 Acura TSX Palladium (wife's car) Off-roading Videos of My G I AM FAMOUS!! "Everyday is Halloween on the Internet"

10-22-2009, 06:05 PM	#123 (permalink)
Thai Snowflake, Guns, & Texas! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 11,905	2010 Mercedes G brochure: http://www.mercedes-benz.nl/content/..._W463_MY10.pdf Cool fact (for me): "Up to 4-mm thick in places, the G-class frame is held together by more than 6400 weld spots. As well as that, it is surface-treated and waxed. The vehicle underfloor, meanwhile, has an additional plastic coating." __________________ 2010 Toyota Prius V with ATP (daily driver) 2008 Toyota Sienna Salsa Red Pearl 2wd Limited (urban family "land cruiser") 2009 Acura TSX Palladium (wife's car) Off-roading Videos of My G I AM FAMOUS!! "Everyday is Halloween on the Internet"

11-08-2009, 03:02 PM	#125 (permalink)
Thai Snowflake, Guns, & Texas! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 11,905	Some nice photos of the G underneath...on a 2007 G500 borrowed from another forum: Attached Images __________________ 2010 Toyota Prius V with ATP (daily driver) 2008 Toyota Sienna Salsa Red Pearl 2wd Limited (urban family "land cruiser") 2009 Acura TSX Palladium (wife's car) Off-roading Videos of My G I AM FAMOUS!! "Everyday is Halloween on the Internet"

11-12-2009, 10:53 PM	#126 (permalink)
CJ3Flyr Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Metro ATL & Cape Coral, FL Posts: 5,848	Ok, torsional rigidity is tough to manage with frame rails that close together, period. I have to say hats off to the overall package though. I am sure the rigidity is adequate and I love the exhaust and nothing hanging low... The rear links could use some skids but so could everything else on the market... __________________ Chris 07 Salsa SR5, 4wd Cyclone pre-cleaner , Aux Transmission Cooler, Hidden Hitch 70779 (600/6000lbs, WDH=730/7300lbs), AirLift 1000, FJCruiser front springs (& now rear too!), Axle Vent Mod, Swaybar Bushing Upgrade, V6 Tick Reduction, VSC off mod, Maplight Mod, 255/75/17 Goodyear Wrangler SAs, Tailpipe Mod


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11-13-2009, 01:47 AM	#128 (permalink)
haddix Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Richmond, KY Posts: 1,048	damn they drive fast. __________________ 07 Camry SE V6 lifted, locked, armored, geared rolling on 35's (SOLD)

11-25-2009, 08:14 PM	#129 (permalink)
Thai Snowflake, Guns, & Texas! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 11,905	Cool commercial: YouTube - Mercedes Benz G Class - Fireworks __________________ 2010 Toyota Prius V with ATP (daily driver) 2008 Toyota Sienna Salsa Red Pearl 2wd Limited (urban family "land cruiser") 2009 Acura TSX Palladium (wife's car) Off-roading Videos of My G I AM FAMOUS!! "Everyday is Halloween on the Internet"

01-26-2010, 01:51 PM	#130 (permalink)
bovine Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12	i work with g-wagons a lot since i serve in the Canadian army. it takes a special course to drive it due to the complicted diff system and all those damn buttons. they are awesome cars. i don't really like the turbo diesel in it and its electro-limited to 120 KM/H in our versions. the turbo diesel is fine normally.once you add on the armour package the car starts to get real sloppy. with the armour package, each door is a whopping 220 pounds plus all the belly plates and side armour. they are usually used as "gun trucks", providing mobile machine gun support for dismounted troops while the big guns whack the hard targets. in afghanistan if you parked the car on a uphill slant during a patrol the door wouldnt open because its too heavy, and if you parked facing down hill the damn doors won't close. we no longer use them "outside the wire" because they don't fare well with IED's. so far, other than IED's the g-wagon has proved to be a valuable asset. i was driving a GMC MIL-verado on a mud road when it suddenly swerved and went into the ditch. it was in such deep mud the driver door wouldnt open. i radioed for help and 2 minutes later a g-wagon driven by a Sgt. showed up. the first thought i had was, no f'ckin' way that thing will drag this out. well, the g-wagon proved to be a torque monster. it was slipping side to side like a pendulum but in less than 5 mintes the stuck truck was free. i wouldn't mind one of those open top special forces vehicles as a summer car lol. with the mk. 19 and MG3 on it of course. Last edited by bovine; 01-27-2010 at 12:41 PM.

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