First oil change on '04 V8 - Toyota

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:30 PM

I gave our 4Runner her (my wife seems to think it is a "she") first oil change yesterday and shot some pics in the process so I figured I would post them in case they could be of use to anyone.

My first observation is what others have posted, Toyota put a lot of thought into the little details that made the oil change easier than I thought it would be when I first took a look under the truck and saw all those metal splash guards. This pic shows the open access panel for the oil drain plug. It's an oval plastic piece on the rear metal splash guard. There is a small notch on one end of the plastic panel where a screwdriver can easily pop the panel out of place.

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:32 PM

See pic below:

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:36 PM

The oil filter is also nicely placed, at the front with little obstructions around it, except for the front splash guard. The splash guard mounted with 4 12mm bolts, two at the front and two at the rear accessed through oval holes in the splash guard. Don't worry about it falling, it's on two hinges on the front--nice touch by Toyota.

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:39 PM

see pic below

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:42 PM

The oil filter has a nice open area blow it so when it is removed the oil doesn't go all over cross-members (like on a my Grand Cherokee 5.2L V8).

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:48 PM

Apparently our oil filter was installed by a factory gorilla.

I did the oil change without lifting the truck, so I couldn't get much leverage on it and resorted to other methods. The first was trying to turn it with rubber gloves--that didn't work. Then I tried one of those rubber mats that is used to open jars of pickles and such--that didn't work either. I then dug into my box of tools and tried to fit two oil filter wrenches on it, but neither fit (there's a picture below). The "G" was too small and the "H" was too big.

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:49 PM

The pic below is of the wrench that finally loosened the oil filter.

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:53 PM

I bought my oil filters from PartzNet (Conicelli Toyota), including the small washers. I think they were $4 or so with the usual 20% discount (ask for it). The 90915-20004 is the factory 4.7L filter and the 90915-YZZD3 is the "Lexus" filter that has a check valve in it--some say the check valve keeps oil up in the engine for restart lubrication.

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:55 PM

The OEM washer (composite of some sort) was really stuck to the bottom of the oil drain plug (14mm IIRC). I used a chisel to separate it from the plug (the factory gorilla probably caused this bond).

Ian · 02-15-2004, 12:56 PM

The new washer that I got from PartzNet is made out of a different composite and is about 2mm bigger in outer diameter, the middle diameter is the same. In the pic below you can see the slight differences.

Ian · 02-15-2004, 01:03 PM

Here's the oil that I used for the refill. It's Mobil 1 5W-30. The 4.7L takes 6.5qt., so I had to use this 5qt. bottle, then added a full 1qt (still too low), then added 0.5qt. to get it to the middle of the dipstick (after running it in the garage for a few minutes).
That's my usual approach: I tight the oil filter by hand (snug), make sure the plug with a new washer is on there snug. Add almost all the oil (6.25qt of the 6.5qt) and then start the engine to check for leaks and oil pressure. I let it run for about 30 seconds, shutdown, and check the oil level after about 10 minutes. 6.5qt. looks like it brings the level to about halfway between the two marks on the dipstick, that's after letting the old oil drain until it was only dripping once every few seconds.

Jim · 02-15-2004, 01:14 PM

Ian, great thread and pics. I just did the 5K service on my V6 yesterday. Interestingly, the factory had installed a filter with part nmuber 90915-YZZD3. My parts guy said that this was for the V8 and that the V6 filter is 90915-YZZD1. Your filter picture shows what looks to me like "D3" in the part number, not "03". Since the factory put the D3 on my V6, that's what I used to replace it. My thought was that the larger filter area is better. Good to know that it also has the check valve.

sharp4runr · 02-15-2004, 01:24 PM

This is a great thread and should be made a sticky... it's got my vote anyways...

testrider · 02-15-2004, 09:43 PM

Great thread.
After I changed my oil the very 1st time, I installed a Fumoto valve (http://fumotovalve.com/) and I never have to remove the drain plug again. Check it out. I have one in every cars and trucks I own.

-mike-[IMG]valve.jpg[/IMG]

Ian · 02-16-2004, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim
Ian, great thread and pics. I just did the 5K service on my V6 yesterday. Interestingly, the factory had installed a filter with part nmuber 90915-YZZD3. My parts guy said that this was for the V8 and that the V6 filter is 90915-YZZD1. Your filter picture shows what looks to me like "D3" in the part number, not "03". Since the factory put the D3 on my V6, that's what I used to replace it. My thought was that the larger filter area is better. Good to know that it also has the check valve.

Thanks. You're right, it is "D3". I must have had oil in my eyes.

I'll make the change above so I don't confuse anyone.

02-15-2004, 12:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	First oil change on '04 V8 I gave our 4Runner her (my wife seems to think it is a "she") first oil change yesterday and shot some pics in the process so I figured I would post them in case they could be of use to anyone. My first observation is what others have posted, Toyota put a lot of thought into the little details that made the oil change easier than I thought it would be when I first took a look under the truck and saw all those metal splash guards. This pic shows the open access panel for the oil drain plug. It's an oval plastic piece on the rear metal splash guard. There is a small notch on one end of the plastic panel where a screwdriver can easily pop the panel out of place. __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 12:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	Oil plug access panel See pic below: Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 12:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	Oil filter splash guard The oil filter is also nicely placed, at the front with little obstructions around it, except for the front splash guard. The splash guard mounted with 4 12mm bolts, two at the front and two at the rear accessed through oval holes in the splash guard. Don't worry about it falling, it's on two hinges on the front--nice touch by Toyota. __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 12:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	Oil filter splash guard see pic below Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 12:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	Oil filter The oil filter has a nice open area blow it so when it is removed the oil doesn't go all over cross-members (like on a my Grand Cherokee 5.2L V8). Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8


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02-15-2004, 12:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	Removing the oil filter Apparently our oil filter was installed by a factory gorilla. I did the oil change without lifting the truck, so I couldn't get much leverage on it and resorted to other methods. The first was trying to turn it with rubber gloves--that didn't work. Then I tried one of those rubber mats that is used to open jars of pickles and such--that didn't work either. I then dug into my box of tools and tried to fit two oil filter wrenches on it, but neither fit (there's a picture below). The "G" was too small and the "H" was too big. Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 12:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	The wrench that won the war! The pic below is of the wrench that finally loosened the oil filter. Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 12:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	Oil filters I bought my oil filters from PartzNet (Conicelli Toyota), including the small washers. I think they were $4 or so with the usual 20% discount (ask for it). The 90915-20004 is the factory 4.7L filter and the 90915-YZZD3 is the "Lexus" filter that has a check valve in it--some say the check valve keeps oil up in the engine for restart lubrication. Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8 Last edited by Ian; 02-16-2004 at 10:47 PM.

02-15-2004, 12:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	The OEM washer The OEM washer (composite of some sort) was really stuck to the bottom of the oil drain plug (14mm IIRC). I used a chisel to separate it from the plug (the factory gorilla probably caused this bond). Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 12:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	The new washer The new washer that I got from PartzNet is made out of a different composite and is about 2mm bigger in outer diameter, the middle diameter is the same. In the pic below you can see the slight differences. Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 01:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ian Gearhead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE PA Posts: 50	The oil Here's the oil that I used for the refill. It's Mobil 1 5W-30. The 4.7L takes 6.5qt., so I had to use this 5qt. bottle, then added a full 1qt (still too low), then added 0.5qt. to get it to the middle of the dipstick (after running it in the garage for a few minutes). That's my usual approach: I tight the oil filter by hand (snug), make sure the plug with a new washer is on there snug. Add almost all the oil (6.25qt of the 6.5qt) and then start the engine to check for leaks and oil pressure. I let it run for about 30 seconds, shutdown, and check the oil level after about 10 minutes. 6.5qt. looks like it brings the level to about halfway between the two marks on the dipstick, that's after letting the old oil drain until it was only dripping once every few seconds. Attached Images __________________ Ian \| 04 SE AWD V8

02-15-2004, 01:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jim Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Spring, Texas Posts: 45	Ian, great thread and pics. I just did the 5K service on my V6 yesterday. Interestingly, the factory had installed a filter with part nmuber 90915-YZZD3. My parts guy said that this was for the V8 and that the V6 filter is 90915-YZZD1. Your filter picture shows what looks to me like "D3" in the part number, not "03". Since the factory put the D3 on my V6, that's what I used to replace it. My thought was that the larger filter area is better. Good to know that it also has the check valve. __________________ Jim 2004 SR5 V6 4x4 Titanium with Stone Leather Husky cargo liner Rear diff. breather mod. Homelink added Toyota hood deflector

02-15-2004, 01:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
sharp4runr Member 1000 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hoodbridge, Virginia Posts: 5,096	This is a great thread and should be made a sticky... it's got my vote anyways... __________________ 2004 V6 Sport Edition - Stratosphere Mica 1/10/04 Vote for Best Exhaust Sales Feedback Gas Mileage in EXCEL Updated 11/09/2007 http://toyota-4runner.org/images/top_search.gif <--- It really does work!!!

02-15-2004, 09:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
testrider Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 138	Great thread. After I changed my oil the very 1st time, I installed a Fumoto valve (http://fumotovalve.com/) and I never have to remove the drain plug again. Check it out. I have one in every cars and trucks I own. -mike-[IMG]valve.jpg[/IMG] Last edited by testrider; 02-15-2004 at 09:47 PM.

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