I'm asking for you to actually think about this a little more deeply.

Are you saying that black people in general are just inherently more prone to being criminals due to their ethnicity?



No we are getting somewhere. Lack of family values. In part because a huge percentage of black fathers are in jail.

Again, numerous studies, including ones already sighted in this thread have shown that black people are more likely to be stopped and searched by police. This leads to more drug arrests despite comparable, or in some cases less, actual drug use. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rested-for-it/
When It Comes To Illegal Drug Use, White America Does The Crime, Black America Gets The Time

Then you have the fact that, as some of the already posted links show, black people are more likely to be abused by police (non lethal) leading to a culture of distrust of police that allows crimes to go unreported.

Add to that the reduced education opportunities we discussed earlier and you now have a series of systemic issues contributing to the stats mentioned above.



I agree things are bad for first nations but its not the same issue. Nearly 50% of First Nations in Canada live in remote communities only accessible by float plane for part of the year, with very small populations. It makes it much more difficult to provide modern day healthcare, education and other services to these people simply due to their remote location. That being said however our new liberal government has pledged to make significant improvements.

I didn't say anything about black people. I was talking about anyone that gets hurt while resisting arrest.

if they truly wanted things to be different, they would have to change their behavior. you CANNOT force people to change. and you cant even help them to change, if they do not want to.

their current behavior is not a change for the better, just the opposite actually. they are only proving to enforce the stereotype they are protesting against.

So where does the do as I say not as I do reference come from???


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There is a lot wrong with your question. It is like you are trying to trip sometime up.

Black people are not more prone to being criminals because of their ethnicity. Any fair person would never say someone's ethnicity makes them prone to commit a crime.

But it is true that African Americans commit far more crime per capita than non African Americans.

5500+ murders committed by African Americans. They have a population of 37 million. One murder committed per year for every 6,700 people in said population.

4500+ murders committed by non-hispanic whites with a population of 190+ million. One murder committed per year for every 42,000 people in said population.

This is a real issue. The police are not involved in murder committed by the various ethnicities. There is no way to blame the police for these murder stats.

You can blame systemic racism all you want, and I believe that is something that should be addressed, but it won't change these numbers.

It goes a long way to the reasonable theory that police pull over more African Americans because there are more crimes committed.

But now you are just regurgitating facts to me that have been repeated over and over in this thread. I was asking that we look at the reasons why.

I posted several reasons I think contribute. One of them highlighted the fact that white people and black people have comparable rates for drug use and drug dealing. Yet blacks get stopped, searched and charged more often.
I find it bizarre that you dismiss systemic racism as some crazy thing I'm ranting about and then say that addressing it wont change anything... So what do you want??

You think everything is fine as it is? That people are crazy for thinking there is bias? Or WHAT!?

It seems like you guys continue to deny race is a factor then spew a bunch of statistics about black people committing more crimes, being more violent, etc. Then when I ask to address the reasons that this might be so you tell me that it wont change anything and go back to the initial facts. I feel like we're dancing around the real issue here...




I didn't realize at some point during this long thread about BLM and racial division you switched the target to criminals in general.




This is a real banging my head against a wall moment for me. Take what you just wrote and apply it to racists.

wtf are you going on about?
I specifically replied to your comment. i didn't say anything about BLM either.

what racists are you talking about?

you are having a hard time staying on point..

The thing is that Black Lives Matter movement is about a narrative that police are overly violent towards African Americans and police them with bias (more stops etc). The question that comes to mind is: Is that even true? Many conservatives, backed with plenty of data don't believe the narrative is true.

Yet in this forum thread you are now asking a totally different question which is: Why are African Americans more likely to live in impoverished neighborhoods that have high crime and high murder rates.

These two topics and how to solve them are actually miles apart.

It is easy to blame the police for high crime, low income, high poverty neighborhoods and that is what the liberals in America have chosen to do.

I was responding to a question posed by JD that is what I responded to. And as far as this thread not being on topic. It was derailed from about the 4th post.


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Even though I tend to agree with your definition of BLM in rough form, I am not sure that your definition is a given for many BLM protesters/supporters. I suspect that your BLM definition is not a given for everyone.

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America this week, what the hell?

Pitbulls have a bad rep for being a overly aggressive breed. I used to have a male pitbull who was the sweetest, gentlest dog there was. Wouldn't hurt a mouse. Why? He was taught that way. We gave him lots of affection and taught him to respect strangers. And so he did the same cause that's what he was taught and all he knows.

When I was driving with one of my black former co-worker, we gets stares by every cops we passes by. Him and another former co-worker was, and still is drug dealers (on the side, and small time). He even said nonsense like F the police.

That former co-worker's sons are now leading the same life style as their dad. Misbehaving and fighting in school and such. And he did not do anything about it, and he don't live with them either.

Cops approach blacks more cautiously because they have a bad reputation. Unfortunately blacks are born with more hurdles to overcome than other ethnics.

Violent arrest of teacher caught on video; officers face... | www.mystatesman.com

Cop was right. Lady was wrong...

Geez JD I've answered your questions about 100 times in all these threads. You want the answer? Here it is again:
Education. Educate the people like me, White Joe Citizen, educate the police and educate black people to NOT resist arrest. Don't commit murder at 10X the rate of other races.

@ThorInc posted a few pages back how his black friends educate their kids on caution around police. I posted the same about how I educated my kids to be cautious and respectful with police.

That's a start. How to do it? I have no idea nor does anyone else in this thread. Education is the solution. How to accomplish that is the challenge.

Terrorism in general has no boundaries.