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Originally Posted by DarthYota View Post
So I'm in a similar boat as you. However I planned to get new wheels but stay with 20's on the limited. Besides looks the main reason is that I dont want to mess much with the driving dynamics of the LE. I love how it handles ramps and twisties more like a car than a truck. I tend to drive 10+ mph over the speed limit almost all the time. I'm not sure how much of that is due to xreas or the 20's with lower sidewalls ie less flex. I rented an Sr5 for a week once and couldnt stand the floaty bouncy drive.
Howdy! I guess my experience was a little different, because I absolutely hate how the truck handles with the stock 20s. That wheel and tire combination, in my opinion, is a terrible choice for a 4Runner... a nearly 5k lb SUV has no business riding on 7"wide wheels with 245 rubber. People don't joke about them being wagon wheels for nothing

I drive somewhat aggressively and taking quick turns on those stock 20s always required additional correction to get the 4Runner straight and not feel like it was going to flip. The biggest change I noticed with my wheel/tire choices has been overall stability and smoothness. X-REAS does a good job of controlling body roll, but it does so at the expense of ride quality. I would say the Limited is actually the least-smooth 4Runner unless you're on freshly paved, perfect roads.

Not sure what the roads are like in your part of the country, but here, they can be pretty bad and the stock 20s with low profile tires were fairly bouncy and harsh on broken pavement and impacts. Again, X-REAS doesn't help. Going to a tire with more sidewall and more width made it feel much more stable and planted, as well as much smoother. If I was in your shoes, I would go for a 17" or 18" wheel that is at least 7.5 inches wide, and wearing 265 width rubber. Maybe a 265/70R18?


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I plan to go up to a 275-60-20 as I was told by my local deal thats the highest I can go without rub or mod. The stock geolanders havent been horrible and I've done a few light trails and plenty of beach driving in them. But I'd prefer a mor aggressive look as well. So my question on this topic is...did you notice much of a change in the driving specific to those characteristics when you moved to a 17?
I probably answered most of your questions above. I am not sure what load ratings are available for 275/60R20 tires, but if you are trying to preserve ride quality, I would try to stick to P-rated. A C or E rated tire + 20" wheels + X-REAS is a recipe for early veneers, IMO.

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Next question...How come the general grabber A/TX, continental terrain contact a/t, Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 3, or toyo open country AT2 didnt make your original list?

Grabber is pretty highly rated on Tire Rack by consumer feedback. Continental was highly rated (except snow) by official Tire Rack comparo and was the top LT tire on Consumer Reports testing, same with Bridgestone with respect to Tire Rack, and Toyo OCAT2 is pretty well known.

Conversely, I'm surprised the Pirelli made your list as it fared the worst in the Tire rack comparo.

Interested to know your thoughts since I'm sure you came across them in your research.
I read mainly positive things about the General Grabber except for some complaints about highway noise, but noise was a big factor for me, so I passed on it. The Continental hadn't come up in my search, nor the Bridgestone... and I should have really looked at that one. I had Bridgestones on some of the Lexus cars I drove, and loved them. I primarily found reviews of the Toyos in E load range, and far fewer for the P-rated version. I know that is another tire that many love, however.
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