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Originally Posted by 4powells View Post
Thanks. I have never driven one with KDSS but I have rented two SR5s. I found the roll to be a medium issue and the nose dive to be a minor issue. I also felt it drifted around the road quite a bit in excess of what I would expect from a vehicle that size.

Would skipping KDSS and a decent suspension upgrade solve some or all of those issues? I can certainly find ORPs for days without KDSS so it would make things a ton easier for me.
It will all depend on your exact suspension setup and your exact preferences and uses but as a rule of thumb any decent suspension will allow you to forgo KDSS on road while being better on higher speed offroad sections (no punishing monster sway bar), have lower maintenance bills if you keep it like I hope I will (20+ years), and make mods easier to execute (fewer things in the way).

In my case, with 6112/Icon 2.0 rear the vehicle is very nice to drive on road as far as an SUV can be nice to drive on road LOL. I will upgrade to 650lb springs because the front is not stiff enough offroad but it is stiff enough on pavement.

I am not at all against KDSS. I love how it works in the GX package. But on a 4R I would rather simply upgrade the suspension. I don't really see the point of having KDSS and also upgrading the suspension though it is commonly done. BY contrast, there is a ton to like about the GX total package (KDSS+suspension) and the present-day GX is not really suited for difficult trails without significant upgrades anyway (like front bumper, to start with).
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