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Originally Posted by patkelly4370 View Post
This is from a previous post.

"Btw not sure if it was mentioned but I 100% guarantee this handle was left off just the US 4Runner because of US-specific crash testing.

Not positive which test, but I'm guessing that it impeded on the dummy (or the dummy's momentum pushed it into the handle orclose to it) in some offset or frontal crash.

Guessing something about the GX or other model Lexus SUVs made it impede differently or to a lesser extent."

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Oddly enough, the driver and passenger react differently in crashes and it is in the small overlap crash where Vince's head can impact the handle on the driver's side, but Larry doesn't whack his head on the passenger side.

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Yes, there is a risk of the driver's head colliding with the grab handle under certain conditions.

Before doing this mod on my own rig, I reviewed a lot of crash test footage. I determined that it would not interfere with correct airbag deployment. However, during a head on small-overlap collision to the driver's side, the driver's head does tend to traverse towards the a-pillar region. Which I suspect is the reason why Toyota chose not to put a grab handle that area.

Unfortunately, if I ever get in such a wreck, whacking my head on the grab handle will probably not be my biggest concern... the highest risk of injury will occur when the front tire rotates into the passenger compartment and crushes both of my legs.

In any event, it's a risk I'm comfortable with.
So you're OK with traumatic brain injury in addition to some leg damage? BTW, on the driver's side small overlap test, the front wheel folds under the car.

I'm always amazed as how the passengers and the drivers react differently in accidents and that is, in part, because the body structure is different on both sides.

A prime example is the Jeep Grand Cherokee, that failed in the small overlap test. At the time, that test was only conducted on the driver's side, so they beefed up the structure on that side in 2016. They added the passenger side test and - of course - it failed the test.

The bottom line is that it isn't always the greedy bean counters that cause a change.
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