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Old 10-17-2020, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kaitlyn2004 View Post
I've got a 2020 4Runner TRD off-road w/ KDSS & Dunlop AT and about 11,000km (6800 miles) and I feel like my mind has been racing all over the place...

Upgrading to tires, larger size
Looking at lift/suspension options

And now I'm thinking I should just replace with 265/70/17 (stock size) Wildpeak A/T3W tires.

- I was originally thinking 275/70/17, but the wildpeaks seem above-average size and that a rub might be possible (despite trail4runner saying 275's don't rub!)
- Lift lets me put on bigger/taller tires, but then I'm certainly looking at a BMC, messed up speedo, MAYBE safety sense issues, worse fuel economy... and lift doesn't gie me more ground clearance, only taller tires will (and a fender/rear chop would be an easier and cheaper way to improve angles!)
- I don't do any "offroading" just hitting gravel and unmaintained roads, but I've been able to get to all the trailheads I've wanted so far (and further than other cars have been able to push)
- I've not yet aired down tires, but I wonder/worry if when I start airing down my tires if I'll run into any ACTUAL reduced ground clearance issues..
- Everything I read seems to indicate people want to be putting on the larger tires/largest they can get away with because of the benefits (despite some cons listed above) but obviously people are upgrading and keeping stock tire size?
- Save money from larger+heavier tires, lift, possible BMC and put that towards other things I can DEFINITELY use more immediately?
- I guess going this way doesn't preclude me from doing diff tires/chop/lift later on... maybe when stock suspension is more worn, when I don't worry as much about chopping "brand new" car, etc. etc...?


Any reason I should reconsider my latest idea of just replacing stock size with a better AT winter-rated tire?

Maybe my experience will help you decide. I have a TRD OR with KDSS. Stock suspension, only changed to SCS wheels and 265 Falken Wildpeaks. This is not a daily driver. I mainly use it off road, and for camping trips. I guarantee I've been on rougher trails than most people you see with their big lifts and giant tires. I'm not doing any extreme boulder climbing or anything, but I get on some pretty rough trails. I always air down, usually at 18 psi. Never had an issue.

My skid plates get scraped up sometimes, but that's why we have them. The trails I go to are not in my backyard, I have to drive on the highway to get where I need to go. The highways around here are steep, winding mountain roads and it's important to me to not ruin the handling of the vehicle and make it unsafe to drive. Your stock 4Runner will get you anywhere you need, within reason. 99% of the people that get lifts and big tires seem to do it just to look cool on the way to work. Just get some good AT tires and go have fun. Your truck will be fine. I honestly think it would be more useful to get stronger skid plates than a lift and big tires that might get you an inch or two of clearance. I'm not saying a lift and 33 inch tires are useless, just saying that MOST people have no reason to do that. Some do.

Also should mention that the Falkens rubbed pretty bad and I had to do some trimming and moving of the plastic, no body mount chop. The SCS wheels are offset a bit, so you probably won't have that issue with stock wheels.

Last edited by thirteen; 10-17-2020 at 08:07 PM.
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