Just had Llumar Formula One Ceramic put on my 21 ORP by the same shop that has done three other vehicles for me. They never tried to upswell but I never inquired about ceramic because I didn’t think I would keep the vehicle long enough to warrant spending the extra cash. They have a display with a high wattage bulb and wheel with the different tints, you could really feel the difference in the heat from behind the regular Pinnacle and Ceramic, i was impressed. It ran about $200 more than the regular Llumar Pinacle to do the whole 4R, went with 40% over the rears and back glass and 15% on the fronts. It’s a pretty close match percentage wise and got the back glass where I felt it should be anyway. Oddly enough, I just realized I didn’t even take any pictures yet.