More like 16000 (with a bit of negotiating). I got my 2011 for under 14k, a couple years ago, from a Toyota dealer. I was looking at 4th gens and gx470s but realized these high miles 5th gens seemed to be a better deal. The 5th gens are still soccer mom vehicles and as I said there is little competition for high mileage ones compared to 3rd gens. The 4th gens I looked at had way more issues (and rust). I think they fixed a lot of bugs with the 5th gen and it seems like worthy successor to the 3rd gen. Everything is a little bigger, beefier, better thought out and easier to work on from my experience. And you can fit a 285 spare underneath.