Home Menu

Site Navigation


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-22-2011, 03:17 PM #1
Blanco's Avatar
Blanco Blanco is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Toronto
Posts: 202
Blanco is on a distinguished road
Blanco Blanco is offline
Member
Blanco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Toronto
Posts: 202
Blanco is on a distinguished road
A little fluid change advice needed.

Sorry this may come off as a bit of a noob post but I'm coming up for my 168,000 km (approx 104,000 miles) maintenance and since I don't have a garage and it's going to be around 35 degrees this weekend (and colder for the foreseeable future) I'm going to break down and have the fluids done at a shop. The 4Runner 'budget' is only around $200.00 right now (and I may need an alignment as well) what with it being the holiday season and all so I was wondering, if you had to prioritize the following fluid changes what would you get done first (eg. the most important) and what would you leave for a month or two?

Here's the recommendations from Toyota along with the Canadian dealer pricing just for the pure entertainment value : )

- replace coolant $95.55
- front diff fluid $44.95
- rear diff fluid $44.95
- ATF fluid $95.95
- tighten and lube prop shaft $25.95

-168k maintenance service $140.00
(I'm pretty regular about checking this stuff myself so not worried and just changed oil so skipping this)

Since I'm not in 4WD a lot, I was thinking ATF, coolant and shaft lube for now?

Thanks all.
__________________
1999 SR5 3.4 V6 4WD | Desert Dune Metallic | Big City Weekdays & Back Country Camping Weekends
265/75/16 Goodyear Wranglers| Bilstein HD Shocks | OEM 'Tall' Springs | Hella 500s | Clear Corners & Signals | Cobra CB | Rust
Blanco is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 03:30 PM #2
badattitude's Avatar
badattitude badattitude is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 635
badattitude will become famous soon enough badattitude will become famous soon enough
badattitude badattitude is offline
Member
badattitude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 635
badattitude will become famous soon enough badattitude will become famous soon enough
As you know, those are all good maintaince items. I'd recommend the ATF and rear diff to start. Is the "prop shaft" the rear driveshaft? If so, it does need to be lubed often but it is considered part of the oil change service here in the US (but you usually have to ask for them do it).

I say rear diff service mainly as a way to make sure you have enough gear oil. Many 3rd gen develop a slow axel seal leak that can damage rear diff bearing if it gets too low.

Coolant is a good idea but you really should wait until you can replace the entire radiator with a Koyo A1998 so you don’t get the strawberry milkshake. No sense in paying for the Red stuff twice.

Don't forget the transfer case oil when you can get to it.
__________________
2015 4runner Limited - URD Y-pipe
2008 V6 Sport Edition
1999 4runner
TRD Air Filter. Airaid MIT. O ring mod. TRD Exhaust. Front Discos. TrueTrac
badattitude is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 03:50 PM #3
Maxil's Avatar
Maxil Maxil is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Statesboro, Ga
Posts: 219
Maxil is on a distinguished road
Maxil Maxil is offline
Member
Maxil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Statesboro, Ga
Posts: 219
Maxil is on a distinguished road
For the price they are quoting on coolant, I would do it myself. It is super super easy to do. One gallon of distilled water and toyota red coolant, $25 or so and you are done. I did that this weekend when replacing the radiator. Draining the thing and filling it has to be easier than changing oil, nothing hard to get to at all.

I agree with the previous poster on replacing the radiator if you are able. I managed to do it so it is not all that hard. Not to mention that I added an external cooler and changed the hoses as well.

ATF is a fair deal depending on how much they change. I Would certainly not pay to have the drive shaft lubed, jiffy lube once did mine when I was in a hurry for nothing!
__________________
98' SR5 4x4
Yaesu FT-8900 with Larsen NMO 150 Antenna
K&N Cold air intake
Koyo Radiator with B&M 70264 for towing
Amsoil fluid everywhere, except Radiator
Maxil is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 04:19 PM #4
maxspeed96ct's Avatar
maxspeed96ct maxspeed96ct is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 560
maxspeed96ct is on a distinguished road
maxspeed96ct maxspeed96ct is offline
Member
maxspeed96ct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 560
maxspeed96ct is on a distinguished road
Bundle up, put on a canadian tuxedo (carheart jacket or bibs) and do the maintenance yourself.

You need a basic socket set and maybe a cheap oil pump . Hand pump ones are dirt cheap.
If you search there's some good write ups on all the fluids you mentioned.
Good luck
__________________
99 4runner sold and missed
now shopping for a 2nd gen taco !
maxspeed96ct is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 04:25 PM #5
cordrayj1's Avatar
cordrayj1 cordrayj1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: James Island, Charleston, SC
Age: 39
Posts: 1,143
Real Name: Johnny
cordrayj1 is on a distinguished road
cordrayj1 cordrayj1 is offline
Senior Member
cordrayj1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: James Island, Charleston, SC
Age: 39
Posts: 1,143
Real Name: Johnny
cordrayj1 is on a distinguished road
i would go to your nearest harbor freight and get either the 3/8" drive or 1/2" drive torque wrench. esp on the frequent maint items that will be checked alot. torques are there for a reason. if you're not in a pinch and have the tool, use it.
__________________
2000 4Runner SR5, 5vz-fe, 5speed, 246k miles, bfg 35's on stock 1985 4runner wheels
cordrayj1 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 04:29 PM #6
Nelsonmd's Avatar
Nelsonmd Nelsonmd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Boston MA
Age: 40
Posts: 3,394
Nelsonmd is on a distinguished road
Nelsonmd Nelsonmd is offline
Senior Member
Nelsonmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Boston MA
Age: 40
Posts: 3,394
Nelsonmd is on a distinguished road
Yeah, the gear oil you can replace super easily. The coolant price seems a little high. The ATF seems like a decent deal if they replace all of it.

I would say do the drive shaft lubing first, then the rest. The diff fluid is pretty robust, but if it has never been done, it would be very good to do that, same with the ATF.
__________________
2000 SR5 3.4L V6 Automatic 4x4, e-locker, 175k Miles, Rust
Imp. Jade Mica with Oak Leather Interior, Field Monitor Unit - B&M Tranny Cooler - SG2 - New (to me) rear axle assembly - Goodyear Duratrac 265/75-16 - 1.8" Ironman Front Lift, OME 906/Procomp 9000 Shocks

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...ld-thread.html
Nelsonmd is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 04:34 PM #7
tbst's Avatar
tbst tbst is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Morgantown, WV
Posts: 1,331
tbst is on a distinguished road
tbst tbst is offline
Senior Member
tbst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Morgantown, WV
Posts: 1,331
tbst is on a distinguished road
Thought the pumps were a little pricey for what they are. This will do for you as well. I didn't have the tool to lower the spare and still used this. (There is a hose clamp 1/4" on there, cant really see it.)

tbst is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 09:22 PM #8
maxspeed96ct's Avatar
maxspeed96ct maxspeed96ct is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 560
maxspeed96ct is on a distinguished road
maxspeed96ct maxspeed96ct is offline
Member
maxspeed96ct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 560
maxspeed96ct is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsonmd View Post
Yeah, the gear oil you can replace super easily. The coolant price seems a little high. The ATF seems like a decent deal if they replace all of it.

I would say do the drive shaft lubing first, then the rest. The diff fluid is pretty robust, but if it has never been done, it would be very good to do that, same with the ATF.
ya 95$ isnt bad if its for a full flush , cause if you do it yourself it takes at least 15 bottles .
__________________
99 4runner sold and missed
now shopping for a 2nd gen taco !
maxspeed96ct is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-22-2011, 11:17 PM #9
Blanco's Avatar
Blanco Blanco is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Toronto
Posts: 202
Blanco is on a distinguished road
Blanco Blanco is offline
Member
Blanco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Toronto
Posts: 202
Blanco is on a distinguished road
Quote:
I say rear diff service mainly as a way to make sure you have enough gear oil. Many 3rd gen develop a slow axel seal leak that can damage rear diff bearing if it gets too low.

Coolant is a good idea but you really should wait until you can replace the entire radiator with a Koyo A1998 so you don’t get the strawberry milkshake. No sense in paying for the Red stuff twice.
I'm thinking rear diff service and believe me if it was warmer out and I had the time, this is one I could totally do myself. I am planning on replacing the rad soon and just checked the coolant - it looks pretty good so maybe I'll hold out for when I change the rad out in the spring.

Quote:
Bundle up, put on a canadian tuxedo (carheart jacket or bibs) and do the maintenance yourself.
Haha. Yeah, I should and in the nicer weather I do, did my plugs, TB and MAF etc in the summer. It's also really a matter of finding the time as well...job, kids and all that. Bought a POR-15 kit a few months back with the intention of cleaning and painting my rusty rear axle before winter set in - have yet to find a good chunk of time to do it : )

Quote:
I would say do the drive shaft lubing first, then the rest. The diff fluid is pretty robust, but if it has never been done, it would be very good to do that, same with the ATF.
Just looked through my history and front diff, transfer and rear diff were all last done at 60k miles so probably a good idea to do them all soon at some point.

As always, thanks for all the input.
__________________
1999 SR5 3.4 V6 4WD | Desert Dune Metallic | Big City Weekdays & Back Country Camping Weekends
265/75/16 Goodyear Wranglers| Bilstein HD Shocks | OEM 'Tall' Springs | Hella 500s | Clear Corners & Signals | Cobra CB | Rust
Blanco is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 05:18 PM #10
jacktahoe jacktahoe is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: El Dorado Hills / Homewood California
Posts: 52
jacktahoe is on a distinguished road
jacktahoe jacktahoe is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: El Dorado Hills / Homewood California
Posts: 52
jacktahoe is on a distinguished road
On my 98 with 262K miles, I have only changes the oil and transmission fluid, along with the radiator once. The brakes I bleed every time, other than that nothing, and I have had no problem....
jacktahoe is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-25-2011, 10:53 AM #11
maxspeed96ct's Avatar
maxspeed96ct maxspeed96ct is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 560
maxspeed96ct is on a distinguished road
maxspeed96ct maxspeed96ct is offline
Member
maxspeed96ct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 560
maxspeed96ct is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by tbst View Post
Thought the pumps were a little pricey for what they are. This will do for you as well. I didn't have the tool to lower the spare and still used this. (There is a hose clamp 1/4" on there, cant really see it.)

ya thats the best and cheapest alterative, the 5.99 H/F pump was kind of messy and the hose fell out once or twice since I had my hands on the pump .

Still better then bringing it to the stealership.
__________________
99 4runner sold and missed
now shopping for a 2nd gen taco !
maxspeed96ct is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Differential fluid change toybox Maintenance/Detailing 166 08-02-2014 11:19 AM
Transmission fluid change cj80cruiser 3rd gen T4Rs 4 09-28-2011 12:14 PM
Transmission Fluid Change ?'s rjaudi 3rd gen T4Rs 6 06-16-2011 11:11 AM
As if you REALLY needed a reason to flush your brake fluid!!! MrBobDobalina 3rd gen T4Rs 12 05-16-2011 05:41 PM
Tranny fluid change...which fluid? wm69 3rd gen T4Rs 3 02-12-2008 01:11 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:45 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020