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Old 04-29-2017, 11:57 AM #31
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So I guess swapping mine out for a chrome one isn't worth the TIME to do it...
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It's a bugger. But not impossible. Drop the window 1 inch first. Plenty of steps on how and all good tips. The needle nose or a long 1/4" drive extension with the opening for the ratchet on those plastic clips worked for me. Just insert and rotate and push. Do not forget the two 10mm nuts that hold the rear hatch release handle. You can get one of them without moving the window mechanism out of the way.

I just removed mine to aid in drilling out the mounting bolts that the PO twisted off removing the plate after I bought it.

My outside handle part is real rusty. I'm probably going to look at a new replacement to put it back together.


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Long story short, I had to remove my license plate bezel to fix the stripped out screws for the light bulb covers. It was an absolute freaking nightmare. If you want to remove yours purely for cosmetic reasons, I wouldn't do it

If I never have to take that damn thing off ever again, I will die a happy man. Lets just put it this way, I would rather remove my starter 3x than take that stupid thing off again...
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I just took mine off the other week. Now that I know how, it wouldn't be too difficult to do it again. It's confusing back there with all the stuff. I ave skinny arms though.

One of the bolts is accessible with a socket extension. The other one is behind the white shroud thing for the window gear thing. I just got a hacksaw blade and cut a notch in the white thing and I was able to access the second bolt with the extension. That way I don't have to undo any of the window components.
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I just took mine off the other week. Now that I know how, it wouldn't be too difficult to do it again. It's confusing back there with all the stuff. I ave skinny arms though.



One of the bolts is accessible with a socket extension. The other one is behind the white shroud thing for the window gear thing. I just got a hacksaw blade and cut a notch in the white thing and I was able to access the second bolt with the extension. That way I don't have to undo any of the window components.


You know, though about that after figuring out that rain deflector is molded to the window linkage mounting hardware. Wouldn't have saved me much removal time though. Sadly. The 4 bolts and letting the window hardware slide down out of the way is no biggy after dropping the window 1".


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I removed and repaired the bezel due to a dropped lock last summer, all went well

Then, two weeks ago, I was removing the glue left from my emblems and thought I would clean around the bezel and I burned the bezel and ripped the rubber washer that seals it to the body

Looks like I am either going to replace the bezel, or repair it, paint it, and silicone it to the body. Yay me
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I removed and repaired the bezel due to a dropped lock last summer, all went well



Then, two weeks ago, I was removing the glue left from my emblems and thought I would clean around the bezel and I burned the bezel and ripped the rubber washer that seals it to the body



Looks like I am either going to replace the bezel, or repair it, paint it, and silicone it to the body. Yay me


You know I did the removal thing a few years ago for the first time when I swapped hatches between the totaled 96 and the 97 "Puppy Hauler" that had a dent. It was no issue not caring about removal since one was junk anyway. Two years later I'll be darn if I had to figure it out all over again. I'd thought I would remember. Nope.......I didn't brake anything. Just forgot about dropping the window a inch or two.


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Long story short, I had to remove my license plate bezel to fix the stripped out screws for the light bulb covers. It was an absolute freaking nightmare. If you want to remove yours purely for cosmetic reasons, I wouldn't do it

If I never have to take that damn thing off ever again, I will die a happy man. Lets just put it this way, I would rather remove my starter 3x than take that stupid thing off again...
Noted. Damn. I wish the made chrome paint in a can that didn't look like jsut plain silver when it was sprayed. Would be cool for some parts.
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Long story short, I had to remove my license plate bezel to fix the stripped out screws for the light bulb covers. It was an absolute freaking nightmare. If you want to remove yours purely for cosmetic reasons, I wouldn't do it

If I never have to take that damn thing off ever again, I will die a happy man. Lets just put it this way, I would rather remove my starter 3x than take that stupid thing off again...
Did you detach the window regulator? It's pretty easy once that is out of the way and only takes a moment.
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I can't remember what I did and didn't do, all I remember was it being a pain in the ass. Maybe if you have really small hands/arms but I'm 6'4" 285lbs and my arms/hands got all cut up and scratched trying to get it out.

Plus once I did fix it and put it all back together, the door latch wouldn't work after i closed it. I had to pull the back plastic panel off while the door was closed which was a nightmare. Finally got it back apart and opened up to realize the handle wasn't working because......it was locked. Son of a B....!!!

It took me like 6+ hours to replace two flipping license plate bulbs.....

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I can't remember what I did and didn't do, all I remember was it being a pain in the ass. Maybe if you have really small hands/arms but I'm 6'4" 285lbs and my arms/hands got all cut up and scratched trying to get it out.

Plus once I did fix it and put it all back together, the door latch wouldn't work after i closed it. I had to pull the back plastic panel off while the door was closed which was a nightmare. Finally got it back apart and opened up to realize the handle wasn't working because......it was locked. Son of a B....!!!

It took me like 6+ hours to replace two flipping license plate bulbs.....

Stuff like that drives me nuts! I learned the hard way that you can actually install the handle bracket on upside down! It doesn't work right if you do that!
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I just put my trim back on after drilling out and retapping broken plate bolts. Then I seen the rusty rear plate lamp screws. I got all 4 out to replace with new if I can find them.

It would have sucked to have to remove it to deal with rusted Phillips heads.


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I just finished posting this up over on Yota Tech to answer over there so much of this is verbatim from that posting, wanted to get it over here as a thanks for the many of you that have helped me out. I've been more a taker from this forum than a giver.

Time to balance the scales-the reference vehicle is my 99 SR5 but not sure the part numbers will correspond to all 96-02 3rd gens:

Old thread I realize. And sorry to be wordy, but this is a bit of an exhaustive endeavor.

I was brought up to be thorough. I lost my father recently, and I think of him frequently as I take on projects where more than one set of hands are helpful. Back in the day I was the small set of hands when his big mitts just couldn't get into a tight area. I'm still thankful for all he taught me on how to use tools and to step back and think of an alternative when something was not working.

Several folks are finally getting around to working on their license plate surround-garnish.

I have part number for the rubber gasket that surrounds the garnish-that is called a "Protector, Back" 76825-35020. $11 or so at dealership

The 4 plastic (push in) clips that hold the garnish piece to the hatch will likely be destroyed when you push outwards from the inside of the hatch. Those are "Clip-Back Door" 76817-89101 --- 4 x $1.42 at Mtn States Toyota

Small hands are most helpful when you work inside the cargo area reaching into the back hatch 'cavity' to remove a 10mm nut below the lock cylinder. The main culprit is 2 plastic splash shields that keep water away from the window's motor assembly. Got a nephew or other small child around? They might really come in handy here. And you can pass on some knowledge that may help them some day.

2 rods must be removed-a large one that attaches to the latch release, a smaller one that attaches to the lock cylinder. Each has plastic retaining clip that slide over the rod to hold it in place. Needle nose pliers work here to help loosen up the clip, but only a small bit of force is needed.

The hatch latch assembly is held to the hatch body, also by two 10 mm nuts, there are tight to get at with a socket, and a 10 mm small handled wrench may be more effective. A side note is that the latch handle also attaches to the rear side of the garnish with 3 extremely short Phillips screws. These may already be stripped or the plastic receptacles they screw into have broken off-do not despair, they do not serve any real purpose. But if the screws are missing you may wish to run a magnet inside the hatch cavity bottom to be sure they have not fallen in there and drive you crazy later rolling around as you make turns.

At times it will be helpful to release four other 10 mm bolts that hold the window regulator arms/motor assembly in place inside the cavity. At other times you may want to but back into place at least 2 of the 4 bolts to hold the mechanism in its normal position for easier access to other connections.

Other threads I have read suggested to never start this job without the rear window already down about 1-2 inches, and I agree with that.

Electrical connections to remove are the one for the license plate lights and another one for the lock cylinder. This is again where small hands are most helpful. A small tip flat screwdriver or pick type of tool helps to push in tabs to release such connections.

Miscellaneous tools I found helpful to have in the cargo area with me were long and normal size needle nose pliers, and one of those small mirrors like a dentist uses inside your mouth.

A helper on the outside of the vehicle is most helpful, in my mind almost a must.

A/ To run for tools so you do not have to crawl in and out through the passenger door repeatedly
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B/ Exerting pulling pressure on the garnish piece as you pinch in the clips.

then later

C/ Holding the window glass in place or even exerting slight upward pulling when you are ready to reinstall all 4 bolts of the window regulator This will take some pressure off of the spring so it will be easier to line up the bolt holes. This is of course when you are ready to put everything all back together.

Once you have removed the mechanical connections and the electrical connections you can work on the garnish more at your leisure without being cloistered in the cargo area.

An excellent time to replace the paint color to match your body color if that is the route you want to go, or go with extreme contrasting color if that is more to your liking. Some 3rd gen owners favor the garnish/surround piece with "4RUNNER" lettering, some like to remove the chrome, whatever suits your needs.

A good time to go ahead and clean up your light lenses, and replace the bulbs with long life LEDs. A good time to check out the lens gaskets and revitalize them. A good time to lube up the lock cylinder. A good time to lube up the hatch release lever. A good time to tighten up the Phillips screws holding the lock cylinder to the back side of the garnish.

A good time to reinforce all plastic attachment points on the back of the garnish piece with Super Glue or Loctite Power Grab (gluelike in a caulking tube), like for 2 of the clips, and the 3 screw receptacles for the latch if you are still lucky enough to have them not be broken.

A good time to be sure your hatch striker is properly indicating 'open door' (AT THE DASH) when the hatch is open, and properly triggering your cargo area dome light when set to the "Door" position. (That is a another job completely unto itself, but just saying since you have the hatch cavity all opened up for the garnish work anyways....)

I've read where others have used gasket type material or even caulk to replace the rubber gasket piece, not a bad idea necessarily until you have to remove the garnish at some point if the latch breaks. Or you strip out the light screws, just saying...

When you are ready to put the garnish back in place, leave the 4 push in clips off and check your fitment, check the latch to be sure that it releases. Keep in mind that the latch DOES NOT have to be attached to the garnish piece to function properly.

It won't release if you do not have the electrical connection in place for the lock cylinder. It won't release if the door unlock button has not been pressed on the driver or passenger door, or on the key fob. It won't release if you do not have the rods reattached for both the lock cylinder AND the latch. Check it out now, you do not want to button everything back up to find out you re-assembled incorrectly.

I realize I have jumped around a bit, but hope this is a bit more helpful than some posts saying it is all intuitive once you open up the cavity.

If you have any experience inside a driver's door panel you will notice similarities in the rod mechanisms of course. But from there it's unlike any other project taken on, but very rewarding once completed.

I now have Natural White (056 color code) for my spoiler and my license plate surround. Much better in my view than a black spoiler and gray garnish piece. And the rubber gasket piece is intact and tight to the body as it should be, the main reason I started the whole thing.
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I've swapped my bezel out. It's really not that hard at all, it just takes a bit of time. The trick to getting the window motor unbolted from the window itself is to roll down the window a few inches until you have clear access to each bolt. Besides that it's straightforward
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if you had to remove the bezel to replace the lock cylinder, and you also wanted to take the glass out to replace it.
would you remove the glass first? then move the regulator then remove the bezel?


I am going to replace my rear hatch, so will need to replace the lock and I also want to swap the glass as the replacement hatch glass has a lot of stickers I don't want to deal with.
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