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Old 08-02-2017, 05:21 PM #16
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Tailgate swap - 99 to 96

I have a similar problem - I have a 1996 4Runner that has a badly rusted tailgate and I was able to pick up what I thought was going to be a compatible 1999 tailgate from a scrap yard. I started to remove my old tailgate and noticed that the harness that's up behind the headliner has two plugs one grey and one white. The grey plugs are the same shape and fit whereas the white plugs are different. I have two questions: 1) Are the grey plugs wired identically so that all I have to do is just plug it in on the 99 tailgate? 2) Has anyone tried to wire a short cable to transition between the two harnesses and make them compatible? I have both ends of the white plug from the 1999 and the plug in my 1996 tailgate.
Or do I have to pull out the harness from my 1996 tailgate and install it in the donor 1999 tailgate?
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The first pic is of the plugs that are on the old 1996 tailgate and the second pic is the plugs that are from the donor 1999 tailgate that were behind the headliner and cut off when it was removed from the vehicle.
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The wiring in the hatch is different, not just the plugs. There is a whole 'rear door ECU' that communicates with the front body ECU via a multiplex communication bus on the '99+ trucks... You'll need to swap out the guts.

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I had to swap the whole wiring harness from the my old hatch to the new hatch. It’s kind of a pain in the ass to make the swap and tape the wires back up correctly.


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The wiring in the hatch is different, not just the plugs. There is a whole 'rear door ECU' that communicates with the front body ECU via a multiplex communication bus on the '99+ trucks... You'll need to swap out the guts.

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Thanks for your response. How long do you think that it would it take for a novice to complete? Could it be accomplished over a weekend? Do you know if anyone has documented how to do it? Would it be wiser for me to look for a hatch from a '98?
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Is this a tailgate from a 1996 to 1998 4Runner??

Hello all,

I'm looking for a replacement tailgate for my '96 and want to get one from a '96 to '98 because they share the same guts.

I found one at a junkyard and I'm being told it's from a '98 at the latest. It looks more like it's from a '99 to me, based on the badging locations. Is it possible it's from a late '98? I suppose I could check the plug before I buy it, but I'd rather not waste the trip if it's clearly from a later model.

Thanks in advance for any help from someone on the forum who knows the details between the years better than I do.
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Hello all,

I'm looking for a replacement tailgate for my '96 and want to get one from a '96 to '98 because they share the same guts.

I found one at a junkyard and I'm being told it's from a '98 at the latest. It looks more like it's from a '99 to me, based on the badging locations. Is it possible it's from a late '98? I suppose I could check the plug before I buy it, but I'd rather not waste the trip if it's clearly from a later model.

Thanks in advance for any help from someone on the forum who knows the details between the years better than I do.

If it is; just take the guts out and swap it over.


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Thanks for the comment but the whole reason I posted is because that's exactly what I don't want to do.
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I found one at a junkyard and I'm being told it's from a '98 at the latest. It looks more like it's from a '99 to me, based on the badging locations.
The license plate garnish is a dead giveaway. That's more likely a 99-00 hatch. Could be 01-02 also.
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Probably have to swap the guts from the original hatch over to the donor hatch. Not impossible but time consuming for sure
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Hi @AssBurns and others - thanks for the comment above. I'm going to have to do a hatch wiring harness swap since I'm an idiot and bought a 97 tailgate for my 01 car thinking it would be plug an play:

The quick question: did any of you actually do/complete the swap, and therefore can confirm everything lines up and works once done?

Asking before I open a potential can of worms thinking the harness swap will do the job and for whatever reason it is different or it doesn't...

Thanks in advance!
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Hi @AssBurns and others - thanks for the comment above. I'm going to have to do a hatch wiring harness swap since I'm an idiot and bought a 97 tailgate for my 01 car thinking it would be plug an play:

The quick question: did any of you actually do/complete the swap, and therefore can confirm everything lines up and works once done?

Asking before I open a potential can of worms thinking the harness swap will do the job and for whatever reason it is different or it doesn't...

Thanks in advance!
Correct, you have to keep the wiring and components to match your chassis. So the wiring modules, etc, need to match your rig.

The wiring of the original hatch plus all the modules, etc, in the other hatch will work. Don't mix and match not going to work. There are too many changes in the circuits from mid gen to late gen.

I wouldn't even try the wiper and the window regulators. [ they may but you have it all]

The metal hatches identical same with the doors and body panels.


This is the sake for the doors and engine harnesses. Always keep the original wire harnesses intact with their pieces. If you do. Your stuff works.



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Hi 5horizons,

If you decide you’d rather find an ‘01 tailgate/rear hatch and want to sell me your ‘97, let me know. Especially if it’s white ;)

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Sorry to bring back an old thread to life but I don't have enough posts to start my own thread yet. Trying to replace the rear hatch on a 2002. Sounds like a hatch from a 2000 or 2001 would also work, but might need to swap a box to get the alarm to work? Is that as simple as literally just unplugging the box from the new door and plugging in the box from the old door or is it more involved? Thanks!!
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