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Old 03-22-2019, 08:29 PM #16
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I know this is an old thread... but are this radiators straight forward when it comes with the install?
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I know this is an old thread... but are this radiators straight forward when it comes with the install?
No, there's a youtube vid that explains the issues. Nothing that can't be addressed, but it needs to be finessed.

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Is this the same radiator ? Looks to be

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It’s my YouTube video. It has been a good radiator so far.

I looked back and I got mine from

https://www.ebay.com/usr/advancedrad...72.m2749.l2754

I only paid $202 so maybe do some shopping you should be able to find it for less.
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Well then, thanks for making that video sleepydad.
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What’s the purpose of it ? Why not regular oem ?
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What’s the purpose of it ? Why not regular oem ?
That's a Little convoluted....

The Champion over the OEM because it's cheaper (by 1/3 to 1/2 depending on where you look)
The Champion over the Denso (who makes the oem and a cheaper option) and Koyo because it's 100% aluminum, not a mixture of plastic and aluminum. This means less potential failure points such as gluing the plastic to the metal vs. the same metal all around that's welded, plastic that degrades with time and heat or is brittle in cold temps. Simply less points to fail.

The Champion is also 3-cores instead of 2 which results in more cooling.

Honestly, it's overkill for a stock daily driver. But it's also only $100 more, which is insignificant to a lot of people. I'm on the fence about it myself, though leaning that way because the extra money isn't a big deal for what you get.

Think of it as the difference between buying a discount tire brand vs a premium tire brand. They're both round, rubber, give you traction for acceleration, cornering and braking. The difference is in the performance at the extremes.
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Well here’s a bump with potentially a new player in the game. Not sure if it’s actually new or a rebrand of something else. It’s the Frostbite radiator from Holley and apparently is their in-house brand. Anyone have any more info on it?

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Personally, I fail to see the need for an upgrade to 3-core aluminum over an OEM replacement unless you're in the Mojave desert pre-running races for a living. The 4runner has a perfectly satisfactory cooling system even in the Texas heat I see every summer.

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Well here’s a bump with potentially a new player in the game. Not sure if it’s actually new or a rebrand of something else. It’s the Frostbite radiator from Holley and apparently is their in-house brand. Anyone have any more info on it?

Frostbite FB296 Frostbite Aluminum Radiator- 3 Row
Why the heck does taking the transcooler off damn near double the price ><
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Why the heck does taking the transcooler off damn near double the price ><
Yeah, looks like the linked Holley site has a weird configurator. You don't really have a choice about the trans cooler - when you change to None it becomes a radiator for a 1979-1993 Ford Mustang/Mercury Capri - GM LS engine Swap and therefore a different price and layout.
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