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Old 11-07-2013, 08:31 AM #16
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So you are planning to rebuild the bottom end or at least below the heads as a preventive measure?

Lots of people go far above 200k miles after only changing the heads or head gaskets.

I say leave it alone and only worry about the heads .
You've done a lot but clutter this thread with nonsense. He's looking to rebuild it because HE WANTS to. For the experience, to say he did it, to have the peace of mind to know he did something of that magnitude himself. Not because it's cheaper to buy a new/used one, or because only the cylinder head gasket might be blown.

sorry OP, I don't have any idea about those kits, but I'd be interested in knowing what you find out. I always thought it'd be cool to do something like that.
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Well, since you're tearing it apart and it's a spare.... maybe think about some forged internals, you know, in case you decide to ever do forced induction. Obviously more expensive, but now's the time while it's on the stand and you can take your time assembling it all. It sucks to build a motor then right after install, pick up a turbo setup and have to turn right back around to replace half the rotating assembly lol. If you do rebuild, make it a documentary!
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Hello Brian,if this is your first time rebuilding an engine i would advise you to find a real good machinist or machine shop.your on the right track if you plan to do most of the job,you have to remember that the machinist will have to do a complete inspection and measurements on what you will need to get your engine running again.LC engineering does have a good kit for less than $900 but if your on a budget i would check out Engine Tech which is the kit that the rebuilder used on my engine,i opted to buy a remanufactured engine from Raptor engines out of Oregon i just got my T4R running last weekend and so far no glitches or any issues. good luck with your rebuild.
This will be my first rebuild by myself. A buddy helped me rebuild my old 22re. I have a local machinist that I trust. I will check out Engibe Tech. Thank you for your help!
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You've done a lot but clutter this thread with nonsense. He's looking to rebuild it because HE WANTS to. For the experience, to say he did it, to have the peace of mind to know he did something of that magnitude himself. Not because it's cheaper to buy a new/used one, or because only the cylinder head gasket might be blown.

sorry OP, I don't have any idea about those kits, but I'd be interested in knowing what you find out. I always thought it'd be cool to do something like that.
You are correct those are the reasons I want to build this motor. I think Brian just wanted to help so no hard feelings to him as I appreciate what he had to say.
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Yes that is the LC Engineering kit I mentioned in my first post. Any good?
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Well, since you're tearing it apart and it's a spare.... maybe think about some forged internals, you know, in case you decide to ever do forced induction. Obviously more expensive, but now's the time while it's on the stand and you can take your time assembling it all. It sucks to build a motor then right after install, pick up a turbo setup and have to turn right back around to replace half the rotating assembly lol. If you do rebuild, make it a documentary!
That thought is planted firmly in my mind. Both my Taco and 4Runner are supercharged so this motor will surely see boost. Forged internals would help me break the 300whp mark in my Tacoma. I'm so close now.

That's the reason I want a full rebuild, I don't want to put this motor in and have something go 1/4 mile down the road.

I will be porting and polishing everything I can on this motor. I have also seen some info on using mid 90's Camry cams on the 5vz to pick up some more midrange/top end power. I'm on my phone so I can't post the link but it was an interesting read.
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I've been drooling over thoughts of building this one up with a turbo or supercharger but man it would be so costly it just wouldn't make sense. Nice dream though.
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That thought is planted firmly in my mind. Both my Taco and 4Runner are supercharged so this motor will surely see boost. Forged internals would help me break the 300whp mark in my Tacoma. I'm so close now.

That's the reason I want a full rebuild, I don't want to put this motor in and have something go 1/4 mile down the road.

I will be porting and polishing everything I can on this motor. I have also seen some info on using mid 90's Camry cams on the 5vz to pick up some more midrange/top end power. I'm on my phone so I can't post the link but it was an interesting read.
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I've been drooling over thoughts of building this one up with a turbo or supercharger but man it would be so costly it just wouldn't make sense. Nice dream though.
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Wow that'd be awesome! But for 5K+ you could have another 4Runner haha.

Still would be sweet, low comp ratio + a ton of boost = one happy camper.
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Yes that is the LC Engineering kit I mentioned in my first post. Any good?
Not sure? I just know that they have some pretty good parts.
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Wow that'd be awesome! But for 5K+ you could have another 4Runner haha.

Still would be sweet, low comp ratio + a ton of boost = one happy camper.
That seems really expensive for a short block?
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Sorry but my intentions were just to point out "why fix something that isn't broken"

If in tearing it apart you see a need to go farther than the heads because the CYL are blown then that makes sense but you mentioned there is no indication anything beyond the heads needs changing.

So why rebuild a Toyota V6 at 200K PREVENTIVELY?

I'm not trying to be a d#ck but that was the point of my question. I've seen plenty of threads where this question was asked and the conclusion was if the main block has no history of problems then leave well enough alone.

I have new heads as of 199k miles, now at 220k and going strong. LOT OF US ARE GOING STRONG at over 200K miles with no problems on the main block. I'm doubtful that rebuilding the main block would have been an improvement since right now there is nothing wrong with the CYL, main block, etc.

And there is always a major chance that when you rebuild it could be a step down from the way it was before. Especially if there was nothing wrong to begin with.. Perhaps I'm missing something but I'm surprised others haven't chimed in here.
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Not sure? I just know that they have some pretty good parts.
I had their headers on my 86' 22re they were great!

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That seems really expensive for a short block?
Yeah that's LC Engineering for ya.
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I have an 88 pickup, reg cab 2x4, manual. I would love to put one of their long block performance engines in it! talk about a sleeper. If someone would give me @8-9k i would make a cool truck
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That seems really expensive for a short block?
Yeah, it is. It's all these parts they use driving it up.

Forged Piston Set (Your Choice of Compression Ratio)
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