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Terminal 9 worked fine. Terminal 8 did not, I couldn't get the test light to light when I pushed the master switch down.
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Terminal 8 should light with the switch going UP, are you sure you had a good connection?
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1989 FJ62 5.3 Chevy, FZJ80 Axles, 4.88's with ARB.
2000 2wd runner, 4 cylinders, yes it IS slow.
1999 4WD SR5 Desert Dune 3.4 351K and counting.
2000 4WD sport 3.4 Elocker <--My son's but I still end up paying.
2001 2WD SR5 3.4 <-- My daughter's...see preceding line.
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03-05-2014, 10:01 PM
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PS, terminal 8 is to the right of terminal 9, right next to the blue "hot" wire.
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1989 FJ62 5.3 Chevy, FZJ80 Axles, 4.88's with ARB.
2000 2wd runner, 4 cylinders, yes it IS slow.
1999 4WD SR5 Desert Dune 3.4 351K and counting.
2000 4WD sport 3.4 Elocker <--My son's but I still end up paying.
2001 2WD SR5 3.4 <-- My daughter's...see preceding line.
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03-05-2014, 10:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by segafan1989
Terminal 9 worked fine. Terminal 8 did not, I couldn't get the test light to light when I pushed the master switch down.
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T8 should light when you push UP, not DOWN on the master.
OOPS. I was late. Had to look at the diagram. I'll go back to the popcorn.
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03-05-2014, 10:08 PM
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I get no light on T8 in either position (up or down). I get a light on T9 in the down position only. I am positive I have a good connection with the test light.
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03-05-2014, 10:11 PM
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OOPS. I was late. Had to look at the diagram. I'll go back to the popcorn.
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Happy to have you along! 
I'm pretty sure this is going to be a slam dunk, unless he isn't getting a signal from the master switch.
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1989 FJ62 5.3 Chevy, FZJ80 Axles, 4.88's with ARB.
2000 2wd runner, 4 cylinders, yes it IS slow.
1999 4WD SR5 Desert Dune 3.4 351K and counting.
2000 4WD sport 3.4 Elocker <--My son's but I still end up paying.
2001 2WD SR5 3.4 <-- My daughter's...see preceding line.
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03-05-2014, 10:16 PM
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I get no light on T8 in either position (up or down). I get a light on T9 in the down position only. I am positive I have a good connection with the test light.
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03-05-2014, 10:16 PM
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Happy to have you along!
I'm pretty sure this is going to be a slam dunk, unless he isn't getting a signal from the master switch.
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...at which point it is a question of which door to body harness has the break, probably driver, since it is used more.
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'97 HiLux SW4 5spd 4WD(Japan model bought in Brazil assembled in Argentina, very close to a 3.0 4Runner/Surf)
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03-05-2014, 10:17 PM
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I get no light on T8 in either position (up or down). I get a light on T9 in the down position only. I am positive I have a good connection with the test light.
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All right, well that is in line with your symptom. You can go down from the master, but not up. Correct me if I got that wrong!
T8 is the UP signal from the master switch. We will have to check the connection at the A pillars to see if that is where the problem is. But first!
Let's confirm the RF door window switch is good, can you jumper terminal 7 to terminal 8, momentarily(2 seconds). That should make your RF window go UP!
If it does, we can officially rule out the switch!
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2000 2wd runner, 4 cylinders, yes it IS slow.
1999 4WD SR5 Desert Dune 3.4 351K and counting.
2000 4WD sport 3.4 Elocker <--My son's but I still end up paying.
2001 2WD SR5 3.4 <-- My daughter's...see preceding line.
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03-05-2014, 10:18 PM
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So which pins should I test on the master switch for the passenger window? If I get no power at the switch on the passenger door, could it be possible that the MS is not sending power from it's switch?
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03-05-2014, 10:20 PM
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I'll jumper it. Give me a minute.
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03-05-2014, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
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So which pins should I test on the master switch for the passenger window? If I get no power at the switch on the passenger door, could it be possible that the MS is not sending power from it's switch?
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The Terminal is #7 on the MS. Yes it's possible it is not sending the signal to the window switch, but you said you swapped it. And it is HIGHLY unlikely that two MS's had the same failure. Not impossible, improbable.
After you do the jumper, we can check the master!
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2000 2wd runner, 4 cylinders, yes it IS slow.
1999 4WD SR5 Desert Dune 3.4 351K and counting.
2000 4WD sport 3.4 Elocker <--My son's but I still end up paying.
2001 2WD SR5 3.4 <-- My daughter's...see preceding line.
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03-05-2014, 10:23 PM
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Okay, the jumper from T7 to T8 worked. Moving on to what next?
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03-05-2014, 10:31 PM
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At the master switch, we want to see T7 light the test light with the switch in the UP position.
You can also check T8 in the down position, but it already works so we wouldn't expect a failure.
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2000 2wd runner, 4 cylinders, yes it IS slow.
1999 4WD SR5 Desert Dune 3.4 351K and counting.
2000 4WD sport 3.4 Elocker <--My son's but I still end up paying.
2001 2WD SR5 3.4 <-- My daughter's...see preceding line.
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03-05-2014, 10:53 PM
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On the MS, T7 does light with the switch in the UP position
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03-05-2014, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
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On the MS, T7 does light with the switch in the UP position
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Good news, you don't have to buy a Master switch!
Bad news, we have an open circuit between the two front door switches.
We need to isolate one connector at a time. We'll start on the left side, because as thedurk said, it's the most used.
Connector 1F1(18 pin connector), located in the left front kick panel. You'll need to be able to get to that connector and find terminal 8.
With the switch in the UP position!
We need to test at both sides of the connector, door side first, if it lights, check the car side. Same Red wire!
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2000 2wd runner, 4 cylinders, yes it IS slow.
1999 4WD SR5 Desert Dune 3.4 351K and counting.
2000 4WD sport 3.4 Elocker <--My son's but I still end up paying.
2001 2WD SR5 3.4 <-- My daughter's...see preceding line.
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