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Old 03-08-2017, 04:27 PM #31
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How far is way off? You can't put the steering column in off because it is keyed.
I'm not sure about that. The bolt seems to go beside the shaft not into it. I put mine back together and the steering wheel alignment is slightly off. I'm going to try shifting it over 1 tooth
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I just did this "mod" 2 weeks ago. I had about 1" play in my steering. On the highway it felt very unsafe, as if the truck was gunna get away from me. I put 2 tack welds on the slip joint. solved the play issue 99% for me. Steering is tight. I would definitely recommend using the vice grip needle nose for sure. The tilt springs were a bit of a PITA for me to come off.
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has anyone got find the solution for the vibration at the steering wheel at 60-70mph? mine only vibrate at those speed.
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Old 10-18-2017, 02:10 PM #34
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Today I did the steering column fix with a roll pin. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!

This took all the slop out of my steering, no more dead spot right in the middle where it is unresponsive and it took the clunking/rattle noise that I would get driving over rough sections of road. Can't wait to get it out on a dirt road and feel the difference.

My only regret is not doing this when I first got the truck. Total time was just under 2 hours from grabbing the screwdriver to having all the tools up. I spent probably 20 minutes messing with the stupid clamshell over the steering column because it wouldn't let go and I didn't want to break it. I also ate a bowl of cereal after disconnecting the battery just to make sure there was nothing residual left in the system before I unplugged the airbag.

The roll pin I used was 3/16" and 1.5" long. For the drilling I started with a brand new 11/64" bit and drilled all the way through. Then went through with the 3/16" bit, also brand new. Then just pound the pin in, I used my roll pin punches, and reassemble. For reassembly I recommend connecting the lower joint that comes from the rack first as this will help keep everything in place as you try and line up the two upper allen bolts.

Also to make sure I got the column into the right position on the joint from the rack I marked not only the rotation of it, but also how far in it was. The rotation can't really adjust though because it is keyed.

As for the safety feature being "disabled" I'm not worried about it. The roll pin would have to be stronger than all the bolts holding the steering column in and the air bag should also be keeping you away from the steering wheel. I never intend to find out though...

Posting this in both threads on this fix on the forum, just incase someone only reads one thread...
Was this a good size roll pin? Did you have to cut and grind any?

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This may be a dumb question, but would it be possible to stick the male end in a vise and crimp it down slightly to take up slack in the slip joint?
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This may be a dumb question, but would it be possible to stick the male end in a vise and crimp it down slightly to take up slack in the slip joint?
Just tack weld it. It made a world of difference in mine. Went from hating driving it to absolutely loving it.
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Does anyone know any SoCal places that will help me with this mod? I have extremely bad play in my steering wheel. I took it to Toyota for them to check it all my suspension and steering components underneath and they said all was good. The car is pretty scary to drive on the highway and wants to go in every direction - especially when braking.
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Does anyone know any SoCal places that will help me with this mod? I have extremely bad play in my steering wheel. I took it to Toyota for them to check it all my suspension and steering components underneath and they said all was good. The car is pretty scary to drive on the highway and wants to go in every direction - especially when braking.
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Has anyone had the list of problems WITHOUT the noise/rattle? mine feels loose on the highway, wanders, moves roughly over bumps (moves side to side), etc. but I do not have any noise...
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Great mod, those springs are a nightmare though. Glad I found this thread.

My crappy weld broke, time to do it again but have a “real” welder do it this time
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The "3 pound hammer mod" worked well enough for me to reduce the steering play. The tight steering has held up for a couple of months now.
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I went with @Unner s fix. I'm very surprised with the results. Should have done this a long time ago. It helps if you take off the trim piece below the steering wheel.

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Did this to mine today using JB Weld. Seems to be quite strong and has completely eliminated the play in the steering and the clunk going over bumps. Drives like a new one...loving it!!!
We used JB Weld as well. I wanted to get it down into the cervices of the slip joint, so I built a moat by wrapping the lower piece with masking tape while letting it overhang the end a little. Then I filled the resulting cavity with JB Weld, let it sit 24 hours, then removed the tape. See pictures below. I may have overdone it with the JB Weld. The shaft seems pretty stout now. It’s possible that I completely defeated the collapsing feature of the slip joint. I'm guessing the JB Weld won't sheer or crack easily if an accident compressed the shaft.

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I spent probably 20 minutes messing with the stupid clamshell over the steering column because it wouldn't let go and I didn't want to break it.
OMG! We spent nearly an hour poking around on that shell trying not to damage it or break it. It wasn't clear where the latches were, or where exactly to poke to get the two halves to separate. Hot Tip: the two screw holes on the front are the secret to success. Right below those screws is where the top half hooks to the bottom half. Those two screws go through long tabs that come down from the top half. After removing those screws, get a small flat-head screwdriver in each hole. Go past the bottom shell but catch the edge of holes in those tabs. If you do it right, you can push the tabs backwards (towards the dash) and get them to release their grip on the bottom shell. Hopefully that makes sense. We still ended up breaking one of the tiny plastic pins on the bottom shell between the tilt lever and the dash. A little epoxy secured that back in place.

The result is nothing less than amazing. We went ahead with the shim mod in the tilt ball joint, but that probably wasn’t necessary. Our slip joint had a ton of play in it before welding it.
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Anyone know of someone in the Denver/Boulder CO area who could assist with this?

Also curious about just replacing that part of the shaft - would that make sense?
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Just a follow up here... The JB Weld held up for a while, but now the play has returned. I haven't pulled the steering column out yet, but I suspect the JB Weld just wasn't up the task.
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