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Will the coil overs from a 2007 Taco fit our 4runners?
Anyone know if the stock offroad coilers, and rear shocks from a 2007 Tacoma will fit on our 3rd gen 4runners?
I have a 2000 4runner and it might be time for new shocks, I was looking on CL and found some guys selling there stock tacoma parts.
Has anyone tried to install these on their runner?
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01-17-2015, 08:52 AM
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Nope they won't work. They will however probably fit on a 4th gen.
I think some might have gotten the rear to work but for sure not the fronts.
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01-24-2015, 01:48 PM
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Nope they won't work. They will however probably fit on a 4th gen.
I think some might have gotten the rear to work but for sure not the fronts.
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Since the 2002 Tundra coils can be used on our 4runners?
Do you think that the coils from a 2007 Tacoma could be used?
Would you know what part won't fit?
The bottom mount?
If it's the top cap that can be swapped out.
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01-24-2015, 02:13 PM
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The later coils are not the same as the first generation. They are a larger diameter and probably have a difference in length and spring rate. The 2nd gen Tundra was a complete re-design, so I don't understand where the assumption comes from that anything would be the same.
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01-24-2015, 02:45 PM
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The later coils are not the same as the first generation. They are a larger diameter and probably have a difference in length and spring rate. The 2nd gen Tundra was a complete re-design, so I don't understand where the assumption comes from that anything would be the same.
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Well the same budget lift kit that fits the later Tacoma fits the 2000-06 Tundra. So I'm hoping that the size of the mounting is similar? There are two points of concern the top plate, and the bottom eye mount.
If the eye mount width and bolt size are the same then the top plate can simply be swapped.
I was wondering if anyone has tried to fit these up yet?
I can pick up a set off CL for less than $100.
For the record i understand suspensions and mods. I'm a new'b to 4runners, but not a Noob to modifying rigs.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...need-know.html
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...alignment.html
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01-24-2015, 04:00 PM
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You asked if the coils can be used and that's what I replied to. The eye mount has nothing to do with the coils. Since you're not a noob to suspension, you already know that though, right?
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01-24-2015, 05:07 PM
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I'm not 100% sure, but while I believe they might bolt in if you swap out the strut mounts if the spring sits correctly on the 4Runner mount, I think it might be extremely dangerous. Those struts are much longer than ours, and with the longer springs, it'll seriously push the control arms down create a severe angle for the ball joints.
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The short answer is no. Parts between 2nd gen tundras(2007-present) and 2nd gen tacomas(2005-present) will not fit on a 3rd gen 4runner(1996-2002). BUT 1st gen tacomas(1996-2004) and 1st gen tundras(2000-2006) parts can be exchanged for the most part as they share a similar design.
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Exactly. Right above me.
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01-24-2015, 09:49 PM
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I'm not 100% sure, but while I believe they might bolt in if you swap out the strut mounts if the spring sits correctly on the 4Runner mount, I think it might be extremely dangerous. Those struts are much longer than ours, and with the longer springs, it'll seriously push the control arms down create a severe angle for the ball joints.
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I'm wondering by what you said? I've seen people use the 5100's from the Tundra's, along with the longer coils on this model 4runner.
That being said is the 07 Tacoma struts really that much longer?
I haven't took the 4runner struts out yet so I'm not sure?
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The Tacoma/FJ/4th Gen 4Runner style struts do not fit the 3rd gen 4Runner because of this extension piece on the bottom of the strut, on the 3rd gen 4Runner and 1st Gen Tacoma/Tundra, the Eye is welded directly to the bottom of the strut's body.
The Springs may be able to be used, if it fit right in the bottom bucket and the 4Runner top plates were big enough around to hold the top of the coil properly, but at that point, you'd be better off just buying lift coils for a 4Runner, you'd have new springs then, and it would probably be around the same cost.
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01-24-2015, 10:23 PM
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I'm wondering by what you said? I've seen people use the 5100's from the Tundra's, along with the longer coils on this model 4runner.
That being said is the 07 Tacoma struts really that much longer?
I haven't took the 4runner struts out yet so I'm not sure?
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Yeah, they're quite a bit longer. With a spring mounted in them that will leave them with their proper range of motion, such as the taco spring that comes with them, it'll give you a ton of lift in the front.
I had two of the same struts in my garage because I got them free at work, and I had the same idea. After I did some research on them, I never went through with it.
If the taco spring will seat properly against the 4Runner's top hat, then technically this strut assembly will work, but it'll probably the equivalent of installing the adjustable 5100s on the extreme perches resulting in a lot of lift and severely stressed ball joints.
If they worked, there would be at least a handful of people on here doing it considering their relatively high availability, but I'm not sure I can recall anyone who is currently running with those struts from all of the build threads I've read.
The end result is achieved using an assembly with either a preloaded or larger spring but the same size assembly (toytec spacers, and harsh ride) or a normally loaded spring with a longer overall assembly (low range spacers, and more similar to factory ride, but hyper-extended ball joints).
Assuming your struts are the same as the ones I had in the garage, then this is a much longer assembly. Somewhere in the neighborhood of three inches if I remember correctly. It would result in way more lift than you want to get from a strut alone because on a truck with enough ball joint problems as it is, you'd be a ticking time bomb.
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The guy before me posted that awesome picture giving an idea of how much longer it is. You can probably get the frankensteined assembly you have in mind to physically bolt into your truck, that's correct, but when you see how far down it pushes your control arms to accommodate this long assembly, you'll see you're new limiting factor is no longer the range of the strut, but now the ball joint angle. You may max out the ball joint before the strut is even extended. Testing that ball joint while it's actually on the road is scary.
To go that route, you need to be looking for new cross members to drop the lower control arms, longer knuckles to raise the top ball joint, and you're now way outside of the $100 bargain you're anticipating.
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Awesome guys! Thanks for the insight!
Much appreciated!
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The 05+ Taco coils can't be much different than the 00-06 Tundra in regards to to overall length and diameter. The trucks are practically the same size. Plenty of people put the Tundra coils on a 4runner shock with top hat, so as long as you don't intend on trying to use the Taco shocks too, I really don't see why it wouldn't work. I would love to see the two side by side for comparison. Somebody has to have tried this to definitively say whether it works or not.
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The 05+ Taco coils can't be much different than the 00-06 Tundra in regards to to overall length and diameter. The trucks are practically the same size. Plenty of people put the Tundra coils on a 4runner shock with top hat, so as long as you don't intend on trying to use the Taco shocks too, I really don't see why it wouldn't work. I would love to see the two side by side for comparison. Somebody has to have tried this to definitively say whether it works or not.
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I agree that somebody should try the coils, the supply of Y/Y Y/B Tundra struts seems to be running out, and it seems that at any given time I could jump on CL and find multiple listings for the factory bilsteins off of a Tacoma, usually 2011 or newer.
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