09-25-2020, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnOfTheJungle
If your weight is more distributed on the rails that run lengthwise (not the crossbars) then it should handle much more. People sleep in rooftop tents up there and that’s gotta be several hundred pounds.
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I think this is the key difference.
Sleeping in a tent while vehicle is parked would be much different than loading several hundred pounds on top, then barreling down the highway at 65MPH and hitting a pothole, or going into a sharp turn.
So I would imagine the roof can handle quite a bit while static, but once moving, things can get dicey, and affect handling and safety.
I think the limit given by Toyota is calculated to leave a large safety margin for emergency handling etc.
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09-25-2020, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dadrunner
I think this is the key difference.
Sleeping in a tent while vehicle is parked would be much different than loading several hundred pounds on top, then barreling down the highway at 65MPH and hitting a pothole, or going into a sharp turn.
So I would imagine the roof can handle quite a bit while static, but once moving, things can get dicey, and affect handling and safety.
I think the limit given by Toyota is calculated to leave a large safety margin for emergency handling etc.
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^^^ This. Most of the OEM luggage rack ratings are given in terms of dynamic loading which is what you can safely stick up there while moving...accounting for braking, maneuvers, etc. I've had a really hard time getting a solid answer on static loading on various cars I've owned but it should exceed the dynamic rating by a good bit.
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09-25-2020, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BeeRunner
So i've read a lot of conflicting information about what the weight limit on the roof of the 4Runner is as i've wanted to add a rooftop tent and the only limit I can find in regards to weight in the 4RNR manual says 120 lbs max. I decided instead of trying to figure it out in the forums and second guessing myself i'd just contact Toyota. The following is my email and their response:
My Email:
08/04/2017 09:39 AM
I'm buying a 4RNR that is expected to arrive in two weeks from today. I've seen several with rooftop tents added on the rails on the roof of the 4Runner. Reading through the manual it says not to exceed 120lb in the rooftop luggage compartment. That is the only reference to weight for the rooftop in the entire manual; however, people exceed this weight all the time with their tent setups, especially while they have people sleeping in the tent. Is Toyota saying that 120lbs is all that the roof can carry, OR are they saying that's all Toyotas crossrails will carry, OR i've heard the theory that that is dynamic load limit for when the vehicle is moving but that when its static (stationary) the roof can hold much more. But I have no actual definitive answer and I can't find anything from Toyota that states specially how much the roof the can hold using adequate crossbars to span Toyotas factory installed roofrails.
Toyotas Response:
Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXXX,
Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
We are very sorry; however, due to a high volume of email contacts, we were unable to respond to your inquiry in a timely manner. We sincerely apologize for any delay and we appreciate your understanding, as it is never our intention to keep a customer waiting.
We apologize as we do not recommend or assist with modifying our vehicles from the original factory specifications. The maximum roof capacity listed is 120 Lbs.
Toyota's warranty covers repairs and adjustments needed to correct defects in materials or workmanship of any part supplied by Toyota.
Modifications to your vehicle could affect the performance, safety or durability, and may violate government regulations. Non-Toyota parts, or any damage or failures resulting from their use, are not covered by any Toyota warranty.
Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us.
Sincerely,
Teayra R.
Toyota Customer Experience Center
Conclusion:
Even though people add much more weight than 120lbs in their rooftop setups, Toyota is only willing to claim a 120lb limit on their roof. If you add the extra weight you do so at your own risk and you won't be able to count on Toyota for any warranty work.
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As someone who works/has worked with several different brands at the dealership level, this will be the exact same response you get from nearly all brands. No matter the age of the vehicle, the line always be the same.
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10-10-2020, 01:04 PM
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Well it’s nice that i’ve never actually heard of a problem with weight on the roof from anyone thats loaded a racked 4Runner. Despite Toyotas recommendation I ordered my Gobi stealth rack and am looking at a Tepui RTT purchase next spring. I’ll take my queue from the bazillions of people who have already set their rigs up and not Toyota's conservative weight estimates.
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10-10-2020, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterontheMtn
this will be the exact same response you get from nearly all brands. No matter the age of the vehicle, the line always be the same.
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Yep Lawyer speak.
@ BeeRunner
, 6-8 mounting points in rails spreads load way better than 4. Be it basket or RTT ditch factory plastic rack and mounts.
Factory rack sliding nuts in rail are 3/32" thick, rail will accept 3/16" plus a hair thick material for nuts.
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10-11-2020, 08:03 PM
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This guy had to strengthen his: Reinforcing the Roof
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10-11-2020, 08:28 PM
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No idea brother man. But I wouldn't put more than two-three hundred pounds up there. Wanna keep her nice and lightweight up there. Think about it, the roof itself probably weighs not much at all.
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06-04-2021, 10:55 AM
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Traveling this summer with 2 kids, 2 dogs, 2 adults is going to be a challenge. Was searching this site for roof weight limit and decided to stick to using our Yakima rocket box (40 lbs) for tent, sleeping bags, clothes, etc. and going to get a hitch cargo carrier for the cooler and kitchen camping box. Now, hopefully, we keep it below the GVWR!
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06-04-2021, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by motoraway
Traveling this summer with 2 kids, 2 dogs, 2 adults is going to be a challenge. Was searching this site for roof weight limit and decided to stick to using our Yakima rocket box (40 lbs) for tent, sleeping bags, clothes, etc. and going to get a hitch cargo carrier for the cooler and kitchen camping box. Now, hopefully, we keep it below the GVWR!
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you wil be fine with that arrangement, but might get a llittle sag out of the back depending on how old your shocks and springs are....mostly springs
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