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Need help on clarifying the stuff for TBU
So I checked out the thread: Hard to find Specs, Info & Measurements on 231mm 13WL Tundra Calipers & Rotors
but I'm confused because a lot of people have different combinations.
Sorry in advance if I ask too many questions, I'm not too car savvy.
Notes: I'm planning on buying all the parts needed and having my mechanic do it for me so it's critical I get the parts right.
Here's my questions:
1. My 2001 Limited is my Daily Driver. I don't tow or offroad. What size of caliper should I get? 199mm or 231mm? I'd like the one that can clear stock spare just in case I ever get a flat tire. What's the brand and what year of Tundra caliper? Where can I get the ones that are powder coated already and just ready for install?
Also I have 16 inch wheels I think, whatever the OEM size is. I'd like my mechanic to avoid having to cut the dust shield. I heard some ppl didn't need to.
2. What year Tundra rotor do I get? some ppl say 2001 and some 2005. I'm confused.
Where can I get em? (I buy everything online these days)
3. I heard that Wagner Thermoquiet are pretty good brake pads. Anyone tried them? I'm assuming I still get the pads for my 01 4Runner, not Tundra.
I think these are all that's needed right?
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05-20-2015, 06:44 PM
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The 231MM will not clear the stock spare. However, that does not mean it's completely rendered useless when you do the upgrade.
Scenario: You have a flat on the front tire. Put the spare tire on one of the rear wheels, then transfer that rear wheel to the front.
Order the brake calipers for a 2005 Tundra 4X4 V8. When you buy them, look for the "13WL" stamp on them. If it has a different number, chances are they gave you the calipers from the earlier Tundras. Happened to me.
I went with OEM Toyota brake pads. I've never had Wagner pads, so I can't comment on them.
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Originally Posted by sugjavier
So I checked out the thread: Hard to find Specs, Info & Measurements on 231mm 13WL Tundra Calipers & Rotors
but I'm confused because a lot of people have different combinations.
Sorry in advance if I ask too many questions, I'm not too car savvy.
Notes: I'm planning on buying all the parts needed and having my mechanic do it for me so it's critical I get the parts right.
Here's my questions:
1. My 2001 Limited is my Daily Driver. I don't tow or offroad. What size of caliper should I get? 199mm or 231mm? I'd like the one that can clear stock spare just in case I ever get a flat tire. What's the brand and what year of Tundra caliper? Where can I get the ones that are powder coated already and just ready for install?
Also I have 16 inch wheels I think, whatever the OEM size is. I'd like my mechanic to avoid having to cut the dust shield. I heard some ppl didn't need to.
2. What year Tundra rotor do I get? some ppl say 2001 and some 2005. I'm confused.
Where can I get em? (I buy everything online these days)
3. I heard that Wagner Thermoquiet are pretty good brake pads. Anyone tried them? I'm assuming I still get the pads for my 01 4Runner, not Tundra.
I think these are all that's needed right?
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Unless you have the 5x skinnier spoked rims, you must get the 199 mm calipers if you don't want to grind down your OEM rims to fit. I think you have the correct rims to fit the 231 mm.
What I did is match the brake pads, rotors and calipers off the donor Tundra. This will ensure complete compatibility. I got mine off of an 06' Tundra v8 with 30 k miles. I also made sure that I got the steel brake lines that connect with the caliper. You will need those as well. I got OEM brake pads because I know they are high quality.
To ensure correct operation, make sure you clean the brake hardware well. The pins that hold the pads on should be shiny. I would recommend buying new ones at the dealer.
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05-20-2015, 10:47 PM
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You don't need the brake lines. The stock 4Runner ones bolt up. I just did this this weekend. The cutting of the dust shield isn't anything to worry about. I removed maybe 2 square inches on each side. It you take your time it isn't even noticeable and everything looks stock. I used Brembo rotors off amazon, Akebono pads, and Napa calipers. Everything is very solid now.
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You don't need the brake lines. The stock 4Runner ones bolt up. I just did this this weekend. The cutting of the dust shield isn't anything to worry about. I removed maybe 2 square inches on each side. It you take your time it isn't even noticeable and everything looks stock. I used Brembo rotors off amazon, Akebono pads, and Napa calipers. Everything is very solid now.
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Interesting on the lines, my runner ones were not even close. Luckily I had the ones off the tundra.
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What was the stamping on your calipers? Mine were the common 13WL, but I believe there is a kinda obscure one that does have a different line mounting.
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Originally Posted by ToyotaBrah
The 231MM will not clear the stock spare. However, that does not mean it's completely rendered useless when you do the upgrade.
Scenario: You have a flat on the front tire. Put the spare tire on one of the rear wheels, then transfer that rear wheel to the front.
Order the brake calipers for a 2005 Tundra 4X4 V8. When you buy them, look for the "13WL" stamp on them. If it has a different number, chances are they gave you the calipers from the earlier Tundras. Happened to me.
I went with OEM Toyota brake pads. I've never had Wagner pads, so I can't comment on them.
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For the brake pads, do I also have to order them for a 2005 Tundra 4WD V8?
I thought only the rotor+caliper have to be for the tundra. lol
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Originally Posted by sugjavier
For the brake pads, do I also have to order them for a 2005 Tundra 4WD V8?
I thought only the rotor+caliper have to be for the tundra. lol
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See above, yes you need the pads for a tundra.
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See above, yes you need the pads for a tundra.
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Does it matter if its a limited/base/SR5 2005 Tundra 4WD V8?
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Does it matter if its a limited/base/SR5 2005 Tundra 4WD V8?
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All that matters is the size of caliper, 231 vs 199.
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So this is what I'm planning on buying:
From Autozone: (might buy it on a local store so its easier to get refunded the core charge when I return the old ones)
Duralast Reman/Brake Caliper - Front $77.99 each + $40 core charge
Driver side: Part Number: C9951
Passenger side: Part Number: C9950
From Toyotaonlineparts.com $53.17 each
ROTOR, LEFT - 2005 Toyota Tundra Part Number:43512-0C011
ROTOR, RIGHT - 2005 Toyota Part Number:43512-0C011
Wagner ThermoQuiet QC976 brake pads
Anything else anyone might add or correct?
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look up on youtube, "speedy's garage" for 4runner brake upgrade. I followed this with the exception of replacing brake lines. the 231 calipers I found were from an '05 tundra so I ordered rotors & pads for '05 tundra.
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I did mine kind of recently. I got everything from NAPA. 05 4x4 V8 Calipers, rotors, and pads. The calipers had a core return of $55, so make sure you get the old ones back from your mechanic and take them back. Just don't say anything about them not being the same kind and they should take them. Cutting the dust shield is no biggie, 10 mins with a Dremel and it's done.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sugjavier
So this is what I'm planning on buying:
From Autozone: (might buy it on a local store so its easier to get refunded the core charge when I return the old ones)
Duralast Reman/Brake Caliper - Front $77.99 each + $40 core charge
Driver side: Part Number: C9951
Passenger side: Part Number: C9950
From Toyotaonlineparts.com $53.17 each
ROTOR, LEFT - 2005 Toyota Tundra Part Number:43512-0C011
ROTOR, RIGHT - 2005 Toyota Part Number:43512-0C011
Wagner ThermoQuiet QC976 brake pads
Anything else anyone might add or correct?
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Here's a few things I've learned from the swap and about brakes in general:
Cheaper pads will squeak over time. If you're ok with that then the Wagners will be fine. If not, I recommend getting better pads, and even better if you get pads with shims and grease. The Toyota ones are the best and will last a very long time but will set you back $85 or so with shims.
Also, Rock Auto has the cheapest prices for calipers that I found. They currently have a set priced at $49.79 + core charge. That'll save you about $60. RAYBESTOS Part # FRC11549. Just look under 2005 Toyota Tundra 4.7L engine. And yes, you can return the 4Runner calipers as a core. The only downside is they will take $17 off for shipping (plus shipping to get to you) so the savings gets knocked down from $60 to about $25 or so. All reman'd calipers are basically the same, they just paint them and change the hardware. That reminds me, make sure your calipers have the hardware should come with new pins, clips and 4 of the "M" shaped anti-rattle clips (not just two, per Toyota). Will help reduce any brake noise.
Lastly, do you have the 5 spoke "star" rims or the 6 spoke "split" rims? The 6 spoke ones will not fit without grinding or running a spacer.
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Here's a few things I've learned from the swap and about brakes in general:
Cheaper pads will squeak over time. If you're ok with that then the Wagners will be fine. If not, I recommend getting better pads, and even better if you get pads with shims and grease. The Toyota ones are the best and will last a very long time but will set you back $85 or so with shims.
Also, Rock Auto has the cheapest prices for calipers that I found. They currently have a set priced at $49.79 + core charge. That'll save you about $60. RAYBESTOS Part # FRC11549. Just look under 2005 Toyota Tundra 4.7L engine. And yes, you can return the 4Runner calipers as a core. The only downside is they will take $17 off for shipping (plus shipping to get to you) so the savings gets knocked down from $60 to about $25 or so. All reman'd calipers are basically the same, they just paint them and change the hardware. That reminds me, make sure your calipers have the hardware should come with new pins, clips and 4 of the "M" shaped anti-rattle clips (not just two, per Toyota). Will help reduce any brake noise.
Lastly, do you have the 5 spoke "star" rims or the 6 spoke "split" rims? The 6 spoke ones will not fit without grinding or running a spacer.
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Talking about the calipers, do I have to do something extra like powder coat them to prevent them from rusting? I've seen some posts where people had red ones, didn't know if it was just there for looks.
How do I make sure that the calipers have the 4 of the M shaped clips? They usually just state whether it comes with hardware or not. If it doesn't, can I just go to the dealership n describe the caliper pins and they should have them?
I have this kind of rims do you think I'm ok?
Thanks for all the help!
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