[theesotericone]

Originally Posted by AssBurns

That's definitely making me reconsider option 2. The single should still be able to air up all tires in one duty cycle pretty easily. Having double the CFM with 100% Duty Cycle would be super nice though!

Look at it this way. You pony up the extra 114 now. You use the CKM12 and figure out if you can live with it being 50% duty cycle(ARB way underrates it BTW). If you can't sell it. You'll get damn close to what you payed for it. In the meantime you save some cash and still have a very capable unit. If you decide to upgrade the coffers will be refilled by that point.

Speaking of coffers, I just got this my credit card statement this month. I gotta stop buying shit. lol

[AssBurns]

Originally Posted by theesotericone

Look at it this way. You pony up the extra 114 now. You use the CKM12 and figure out if you can live with it being 50% duty cycle(ARB way underrates it BTW). If you can't sell it. You'll get damn close to what you payed for it. In the meantime you save some cash and still have a very capable unit. If you decide to upgrade the coffers will be refilled by that point.



Speaking of coffers, I just got this my credit card statement this month. I gotta stop buying shit. lol

You’ve made some really good points and I think I’ll end up going that route. I’m already tired of using the CO2 tank and I can’t borrow my brothers compressor forever. Plus having a hard mounted compressor on a switch will be extremely convenient. I know having the dual is absolutely not necessary, it’s just one of those things that is a luxury. Well I don’t have the pocketbook for luxury right now.

I know what you mean about seeing that credit card statement come in. Sometimes I’ll put a project on a credit card until I buy everything I need then pay it when the bill comes. Then I realize “I spent how much?! What was I thinking?!”

Once I get my next paycheck and bonus I should be able to pull the trigger on this. After I determine what’s left from putting money away for other things.

[psraff]

Do you have to go with ARB for a compressor? I have this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've added a 2 gallon tank to it on a switch that keeps it between 120-150 PSI. I put my 35" tire at 14 PSI and aired it up to 28 (which is where I have them at for daily driving) and it took right at one minute.

Reading the reviews, there's one 1 star rating which has to be BS.

[AssBurns]

What’s up with the price being $999? That either looks like an error or a very bad advertisement for such a high price. I don’t even see any of the specs on there.

I don’t need to go ARB but it is nice to have something that 1) Has a huge customer base with a lot of satisfied customers. 2) It is made to work with ARB lockers and can be bought as part of one order.

[psraff]

Originally Posted by AssBurns

What’s up with the price being $999? That either looks like an error or a very bad advertisement for such a high price. I don’t even see any of the specs on there.

I don’t need to go ARB but it is nice to have something that 1) Has a huge customer base with a lot of satisfied customers. 2) It is made to work with ARB lockers and can be bought as part of one order.

HOLY CRAP!!! That price can't be right! I paid $300 and change. As for the specs... I'll look because they used to be on there (I bought it in late 2016). At the time, I spec-ed it out and it was better then the ARB Dual. I don't remember the numbers right now.

Order Summary
Item(s) Subtotal: $309.51
Shipping & Handling: $19.49
Total before tax: $329.00
Estimated tax to be collected: $0.00
Grand Total: $329.00

SPECS:
http://shop.air-zenith.com/200psiob2-black.aspx
http://www.air-zenith.com/images_u/2...2%20MANUAL.pdf

I did buy the ARB manifold when I got my gears and locker from ECGS and it works fine with this compressor.

[Tyler James Inc]

Your post wasn't quite clear about the $2,200 price including lockers I'm like "wtf?! ARB dual compressor is $2,200 now?! "
Option 2.
Damn dude, you really got to choppin. Tubs look real good. Nice work

[AssBurns]

Originally Posted by psraff

HOLY CRAP!!! That price can't be right! I paid $300 and change. As for the specs... I'll look because they used to be on there (I bought it in late 2016). At the time, I spec-ed it out and it was better then the ARB Dual. I don't remember the numbers right now.

Order Summary
Item(s) Subtotal: $309.51
Shipping & Handling: $19.49
Total before tax: $329.00
Estimated tax to be collected: $0.00
Grand Total: $329.00

SPECS:
http://shop.air-zenith.com/200psiob2-black.aspx
http://www.air-zenith.com/images_u/2...2%20MANUAL.pdf

I did buy the ARB manifold when I got my gears and locker from ECGS and it works fine with this compressor.

That definitely looks promising! The issue is it is still $100 more than the ARB single, and still requires the $70 Manifold. I may consider going that route later down the line, but the added cost is not really something I am comfortable spending right now. I could get the dual Air Zeniths for almost the same cost as a single ARB! Could you imagine that amount of air flow?! I don’t think a stock alternator would approve of it though

Originally Posted by Tyler James Inc

Your post wasn't quite clear about the $2,200 price including lockers I'm like "wtf?! ARB dual compressor is $2,200 now?! "
Option 2.
Damn dude, you really got to choppin. Tubs look real good. Nice work

Hahah yeah I should’ve cleared that up a bit. I figured everyone knew I needed new front diff gears and a locker at this point.
I’m convinced option 2 is the way I’ll go right now. That extra $335 can be spent on more important stuff rather than saving 10-15 minutes airing up.

Thanks for the compliment! So glad it’s almost done!!! Body/sheet metal work isn’t my favorite that’s for sure.

[rkntoy]

Originally Posted by AssBurns

Taking 15 - 20 minutes to air up tires really isn't much of a problem.

I love my CO2 for the primary reason that I am usually airing up my son and his friends. I would be there for over an hour.

When I am by myself I usually use my Shittybilt 2781 compressor that is the first Shittybilt product I have ever been impressed with. Fills one of my 37s from 10 to 28 psi in a bit over 2 mins.

[theesotericone]

Originally Posted by AssBurns

So glad it’s almost done!!! Body/sheet metal work isn’t my favorite that’s for sure.

I'm glad it's almost done and I've only been watching. lol

About that sheet metal stuff. Once I refill some coffers 37's are happening. Not as a DD tire but for harder stuff(Fordyce anyone). I was gonna ask if you wanted to help fitting those bad boys on my non body lifter rig. I'm betting lots of shit metal work and I'm pretty sure my sliders and rear bumper will need a shave. I've seen your welding skills so you came to mind. lol

Originally Posted by rkntoy

I love my CO2 for the primary reason that I am usually airing up my son and his friends. I would be there for over an hour.

Bring it on the trip if you make it. Never hurts to have two many air sources. lol

[Black798]

Originally Posted by AssBurns

Alright guys I need some opinions. I’m desperately in need of fixing my front end now before mine and @theesotericone ’s Dusy Ershim trip in August. My budget right now is extremely tight because of all kinds of other life stuff (like gotta buy my wife a new car, just moved, starting newish career, etc) that I need to save money for. Originally my plan was to go with the Dual ARB compressor. Now I am rethinking things. Does spending over twice as much on the dual compressor make sense? I’ve learned the whole “Buy once, cry once” thing and would like to follow that great rule of thumb, but budget issues are what is holding me back from just pulling the trigger on it. Since that will basically wipe out my extra savings fund.

So a couple options I have. I’ve already done the cost breakdown including tax for everything.

1) Just do it right the first time and go with the Dual ARB. Ya know, “Buy Once, Cry Once”.
Cost $2,260.56

2) Single ARB. I don’t plan to go to larger tires than the 35’s I have now (at least not any time in the foreseeable future. Need more power if I want more tire). Do I really need a dual compressor? What is a few more minutes gonna cost me in the long run? I’m just gonna drink a beer and wait anyways, right?
Cost $1,925.67
Difference $334.89

3) Just go with the Mini ARB for now and continue doing what I have been doing for the past couple years. I’ve been either using my CO2 tank, borrowing my brothers Viair compressor or bumming air from a friend. All those options worked fine so far. So just save the money now, and upgrade later on down the line once I have an extra $600 for a Dual ARB.
Cost $1,811.56
Difference from Dual ARB $449
Difference from Single ARB $114.11



I’d like to hear your guys’ options if you were in my shoes. I’m really leaning towards options 1 or 3. I can definitely pull off option 3, but is it worth just spending the extra and getting the dual?

Personally, I feel the dual is overpriced and not really necessary. Heres where I get that mind set. I have the single high output ARB. CKMA12. My buddy has the dual CKMTA12 in his 5th gen. We both have 33s, his on 17 inch rims and mine on 16s so mine is really a larger tire. Last time we were out he aired up from 15 to 37 psi and I went from 20 to 32 psi in the same amount of time for all 4 tires, around 15 minutes.

So yes the dual is faster, but it really isn't as big of a difference as they hype it up to be. I also am able to go from 10psi to 32 psi in around 30 minutes, and while that may seem like a long time it really isn't. It gives you an opportunity to give the truck a good once over and when you're in a group go around and bullshit. I have never found myself being the last one to be finished airing up and can only see myself adding a small air tank to have air tool capability in the future.

The other advantage of the single piston is it fits in the engine bay, the dual will be very difficult to cram in there. This might not be a big deal for some who don't mind the compressor being in the cab but for me, it was a big factor.

Bottom line is if you're budget is really tight, I say save the money and go with the single high output, you will wait a little longer to air up but I doubt you will ever have a problem with the extra few minutes. Or if you really feel you can stretch the budget go all out and do the dual and dont look back.

[S1996R]

I would use a viair and a small tank if you could. My old 82 toy hilux I had a Chevy efi v8 and used the A/C compressor as the air compressor with a 7 gallon tank in the tool box I could fill my 37's quick.

[snivilous]

Buy once, cry once.

There's a 4400 on MPC for like $100k.

[AssBurns]

Originally Posted by theesotericone

About that sheet metal stuff. Once I refill some coffers 37's are happening. Not as a DD tire but for harder stuff(Fordyce anyone). I was gonna ask if you wanted to help fitting those bad boys on my non body lifter rig. I'm betting lots of shit metal work and I'm pretty sure my sliders and rear bumper will need a shave. I've seen your welding skills so you came to mind. lol

Oh wow! 37’s huh? That’s ballsy. If you are like me where you hate your tires rubbing on anything even a little bit, it’s gonna take some serious work to make 37’s fit right. How much sheet metal are you willing to actually cut? Because it would definitely require quite a bit more than just a firewall tub. Obviously I’m pretty willing to cut some metal on my own vehicle and I personally probably won’t ever go to 37’s for that reason. I don’t like limiting my up travel with extended bumps because at that point might as well just do a body lift right?

Originally Posted by snivilous

Buy once, cry once.



There's a 4400 on MPC for like $100k.

Gonna save some dough and just go single. I’ll cry later if I have to. Also not that I have the money but link to the for sale ad?

Originally Posted by S1996R

I would use a viair and a small tank if you could. My old 82 toy hilux I had a Chevy efi v8 and used the A/C compressor as the air compressor with a 7 gallon tank in the tool box I could fill my 37's quick.

I honestly have no room anymore for a tank so that’s unfortunately out of the question. I’ve thought about an AC or York compressor but that’s more work than I’m willing to do right now. It would be cool though, that’s for sure!

Originally Posted by Black798

The other advantage of the single piston is it fits in the engine bay, the dual will be very difficult to cram in there.

Still debating where to put mine. I might put it in the cargo compartment in the rear since it’s recently been cut up a bit and won’t be much of a storage spot for me anymore. I do have quite a bit of room in the engine bay though since the EVAP charcoal canister is gone. We’ll see where I locate it though.

[Rockdawg84]

I known that you have pretty much made up your mind about the compressor but I might throw out one more option.

I love my puma and it fills faster at 3.4 cfm @ 40 psi than almost anything else on the market for the size.
IMG_1587 by Sam Wright, on Flickr

Here is a great thread on it.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/pum...ressor.166969/

with the removable tank it would be super simple to set up to run both your ARB's and to fill tires and even run some air tools.

and is a happy medium on price. $240
https://www.ebay.com/i/283005940134?chn=ps

Just another option.

[rkntoy]

Originally Posted by theesotericone

I'm glad it's almost done and I've only been watching. lol

About that sheet metal stuff. Once I refill some coffers 37's are happening. Not as a DD tire but for harder stuff(Fordyce anyone). I was gonna ask if you wanted to help fitting those bad boys on my non body lifter rig. I'm betting lots of shit metal work and I'm pretty sure my sliders and rear bumper will need a shave. I've seen your welding skills so you came to mind. lol




Bring it on the trip if you make it. Never hurts to have two many air sources. lol

Yup - without a BL you will be cutting (and cutting) for 37s if you don't want rubbing. And you are right about the bumpers and sliders.

Sign me up for Fordyce. Last time I did that one I got on it by accident during Sierra Trek with my 71 Blazer about 20 years ago.