5100 vs 5160? - Toyota 4Runner Forum

rossgoldie · 01-18-2016, 11:27 PM

Do any 3rd gens run rear Bilstein 5160 shocks? I know there are none "made" specifically for 96-02 but I figured it would be worth a shot. I want to upgrade my 5100s without breaking the bank on remote reservoir icons, 5160 seems like a good upgrade if it can work with stock mounting locations

Jason B · 01-19-2016, 12:17 AM

I think I sold someone 5160's in the past but can't find it. I can also get you those shocks, PM or shoot me a text and I'll try to help you out on price.

rossgoldie · 01-19-2016, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason B

I think I sold someone 5160's in the past but can't find it. I can also get you those shocks, PM or shoot me a text and I'll try to help you out on price.

So people do put them in the 3rd gen? For what you get for the price I would have thought it would be a popular swap. Do you know what length you sold?

Motohead · 01-19-2016, 09:06 PM

Any idea how the damping compares to the 5100?

Jason B · 01-20-2016, 03:39 PM

Can't find it. But the FJ fitment might work if the shocks lengths are correct.

geohil · 01-21-2016, 02:19 PM

If anyone tries these let me know. My 5100's/890 feel too soft when loaded. Just moved to the OME891's to combat it and the 5160 looks like it might be a good compliment.

Thanks

rossgoldie · 01-22-2016, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by geohil

If anyone tries these let me know. My 5100's/890 feel too soft when loaded. Just moved to the OME891's to combat it and the 5160 looks like it might be a good compliment.

Thanks

Yea, figuring out the fitment is the hardest part. By any chance do you know the bilstein part # for the 5100's that everyone uses with their 3" lift? Once we find specifics, its just a matter of finding 5160's that are the same length/stroke

OL0033 · 01-22-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rossgoldie

Yea, figuring out the fitment is the hardest part. By any chance do you know the bilstein part # for the 5100's that everyone uses with their 3" lift? Once we find specifics, its just a matter of finding 5160's that are the same length/stroke

I used 33-185590 on my 3rd gen paired with OME 891s. The shocks are actually made for tacomas but I used an adapter. They're the same ones Toytec sells that come with the adapters.

OL0033 · 01-22-2016, 03:01 PM

Actually, disregard that. I just realized I ran 5125's in the rear, not 5100's.

geohil · 01-22-2016, 03:24 PM

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Actually, disregard that. I just realized I ran 5125's in the rear, not 5100's.

It is looking like that is what I'm running too. I've asked the guys at Wheelers what their take is on it. I really don't want to spend the money on Kings/Icon or Fox but maybe that is the next step up?

rossgoldie · 01-22-2016, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OL0033

Actually, disregard that. I just realized I ran 5125's in the rear, not 5100's.

although those are 5125's, it looks like they have an 8" stroke. So theoretically, if there are 5160's with an 8'" stroke and same mounting design, they should fit!

rossgoldie · 01-22-2016, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by geohil

It is looking like that is what I'm running too. I've asked the guys at Wheelers what their take is on it. I really don't want to spend the money on Kings/Icon or Fox but maybe that is the next step up?

Icon has some relatively cheap 2.0s but non resevoired if you want a for sure fit

geohil · 01-22-2016, 03:33 PM

We would also have to find out how they are valved. I'm thinking loaded the tail of my truck is probably about FJ weight to it still might work out (assuming a 8 inch stroke)

Edit: So Wheelers Offroad wrote me back and they have taken some 5160's off a 05+ taco and transplanted them on a 3rd gen. They had to press out the lower bushing and press in one that would fit. His comment is the fitment is very tough as it is difficult to cram a remote reservoir anywhere.

Their recommendation to me is to go OME. Per WO they are better for heavy loads.

rossgoldie · 01-22-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by geohil

We would also have to find out how they are valved. I'm thinking loaded the tail of my truck is probably about FJ weight to it still might work out (assuming a 8 inch stroke)

Edit: So Wheelers Offroad wrote me back and they have taken some 5160's off a 05+ taco and transplanted them on a 3rd gen. They had to press out the lower bushing and press in one that would fit. His comment is the fitment is very tough as it is difficult to cram a remote reservoir anywhere.

Hmm didn't think about the bushing, assumed it was all the same size. Did they say that the reservoir would not be able to ride piggyback in a 3rd gen?

geohil · 01-22-2016, 03:56 PM

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Hmm didn't think about the bushing, assumed it was all the same size. Did they say that the reservoir would not be able to ride piggyback in a 3rd gen?

They were able to do it - it was just a PITA finding a spot that the tire wouldn't rub. I'm sure if you trim the inner fender a bit you could sneak it on top of the frame. He just said fitment was tough.

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