User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 08-04-2016, 10:43 AM #1
starclassic's Avatar
starclassic starclassic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 146
Real Name: Taylor
starclassic is on a distinguished road
starclassic starclassic is offline
Member
starclassic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 146
Real Name: Taylor
starclassic is on a distinguished road
Help replacing 3rd gen upper ball joints (Chicago)

So I've been reading all the various UBJ R/R threads, still haven't found anything super clear on the best way to go about it for my '97 SR5. Most say its a PITA compared to the LBJs (mine are already replaced).

I have basic mechanic hand tools, but nothing specialized. Was thinking of renting some kits from O'Reilly's but there's disagreement about what is needed. Was thinking of buying a Craftsman grinder with cut-off blade, but it seems like that is also not mandatory. Then there's the whole matter of removing the UPB from the knuckle, and pressing it back in again.

Any advice for a capable novice? My UBJs have never been replaced (221k miles) and were in the SW, so it's pretty clean and dry—no rust, I am thinking nothing will be too hard to knock apart.

Anyone in Chicago west suburbs willing to help me out? Any good YouTube walkthroughs I haven't found yet?
__________________
'97 SR5 4X4 "Jake" | Build Thread
starclassic is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 11:02 AM #2
November Sun November Sun is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
Posts: 143
November Sun is on a distinguished road
November Sun November Sun is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
Posts: 143
November Sun is on a distinguished road
Since I just did this, I'll tell you what I did.

I rented the C-Clamp style press from Oreily along with the 4WD adapter.

Get a 27 mm socket.

Make sure to remove the Retaining ring holding the ball joint to the knuckle.

I ended up grinding the upper post to of the ball joint off, no amount of hammering worked.

After that, I took the big C-Clamp, positioned it around the upper ball joint with the longer catch cup from the 4WD adapter set, then I used a 27 mm socket on top in place of the supplied part from the press, you may have to pull it out from the wheel well to get it positioned right. Then I used a bigass breaker bar and wrenched the hell out of it until it popped loose.

Then used the C-Clamp to press the new one back in.

Hope this makes sense, I'm posting this in a hurry between work tasks, I searched the forum and found the thread about using the 27mm socket as the press tool.
November Sun is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 11:36 AM #3
stir_fry_boy's Avatar
stir_fry_boy stir_fry_boy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,011
stir_fry_boy is an unknown quantity at this point
stir_fry_boy stir_fry_boy is offline
Senior Member
stir_fry_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,011
stir_fry_boy is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by November Sun View Post
Since I just did this, I'll tell you what I did.

I rented the C-Clamp style press from Oreily along with the 4WD adapter.

Get a 27 mm socket.

Make sure to remove the Retaining ring holding the ball joint to the knuckle.

I ended up grinding the upper post to of the ball joint off, no amount of hammering worked.

After that, I took the big C-Clamp, positioned it around the upper ball joint with the longer catch cup from the 4WD adapter set, then I used a 27 mm socket on top in place of the supplied part from the press, you may have to pull it out from the wheel well to get it positioned right. Then I used a bigass breaker bar and wrenched the hell out of it until it popped loose.

Then used the C-Clamp to press the new one back in.

Hope this makes sense, I'm posting this in a hurry between work tasks, I searched the forum and found the thread about using the 27mm socket as the press tool.
I've used this method as well. I just used the separate 4WD adapters and it worked fine. Also used a pickle fork to separate the UBJ from the UCA. I didn't use an extra socket. I did use a die grinder and it cut through the UBJ shaft in like 2 minutes. Those use quite a bit of air though, angled grinder would work fine. It does take a big breaker bar to get it out, pressing in wasn't to bad as long as you put it in square with the top of the knuckle.

Only use OEM ball joints, they are around $40 each through Camelback.

Since you have the UCA separated from the knuckle, if you havnen't already, replace the UCA bushings. Not much more has to be done to get them out.
__________________
2015 T4R TRD Pro in super white, Morimoto 4300K HID kit, Auer Engineering / Toyota LED DRL/Fogs 2-in-1's, TRD drop in air filter, WeatherTech front and back liners.
2002 T4R SR5 4WD Onyx Black Sport Edition w/Leather. Gone but not forgotten.

Last edited by stir_fry_boy; 08-04-2016 at 12:00 PM.
stir_fry_boy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 12:44 PM #4
starclassic's Avatar
starclassic starclassic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 146
Real Name: Taylor
starclassic is on a distinguished road
starclassic starclassic is offline
Member
starclassic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 146
Real Name: Taylor
starclassic is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by stir_fry_boy View Post
Since you have the UCA separated from the knuckle, if you havnen't already, replace the UCA bushings. Not much more has to be done to get them out.
Hey that's a great idea, thanks. Looks like for a '97 SR5 it's the same part on both the left and right side: 48632-35080 ($25.09 at ToyotaPartsDeal)
__________________
'97 SR5 4X4 "Jake" | Build Thread
starclassic is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 12:52 PM #5
stir_fry_boy's Avatar
stir_fry_boy stir_fry_boy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,011
stir_fry_boy is an unknown quantity at this point
stir_fry_boy stir_fry_boy is offline
Senior Member
stir_fry_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,011
stir_fry_boy is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by starclassic View Post
Hey that's a great idea, thanks. Looks like for a '97 SR5 it's the same part on both the left and right side: 48632-35080 ($25.09 at ToyotaPartsDeal)
They may be different front and back?
__________________
2015 T4R TRD Pro in super white, Morimoto 4300K HID kit, Auer Engineering / Toyota LED DRL/Fogs 2-in-1's, TRD drop in air filter, WeatherTech front and back liners.
2002 T4R SR5 4WD Onyx Black Sport Edition w/Leather. Gone but not forgotten.
stir_fry_boy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 01:01 PM #6
starclassic's Avatar
starclassic starclassic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 146
Real Name: Taylor
starclassic is on a distinguished road
starclassic starclassic is offline
Member
starclassic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 146
Real Name: Taylor
starclassic is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by stir_fry_boy View Post
They may be different front and back?
Probably. But I'm only working on the front UBJs, so I'd only need those front UCA bushings.
__________________
'97 SR5 4X4 "Jake" | Build Thread
starclassic is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 03:00 PM #7
stir_fry_boy's Avatar
stir_fry_boy stir_fry_boy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,011
stir_fry_boy is an unknown quantity at this point
stir_fry_boy stir_fry_boy is offline
Senior Member
stir_fry_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 1,011
stir_fry_boy is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by starclassic View Post
Probably. But I'm only working on the front UBJs, so I'd only need those front UCA bushings.
I'm talking about only the front bushings, back and front of the vehicle. There are 2 bushings per UCA. I think they are a different part number.
__________________
2015 T4R TRD Pro in super white, Morimoto 4300K HID kit, Auer Engineering / Toyota LED DRL/Fogs 2-in-1's, TRD drop in air filter, WeatherTech front and back liners.
2002 T4R SR5 4WD Onyx Black Sport Edition w/Leather. Gone but not forgotten.
stir_fry_boy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 03:08 PM #8
LookAtThatDog's Avatar
LookAtThatDog LookAtThatDog is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Chicago Suburbs
Posts: 435
Real Name: Mitch
LookAtThatDog is on a distinguished road
LookAtThatDog LookAtThatDog is offline
Member
LookAtThatDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Chicago Suburbs
Posts: 435
Real Name: Mitch
LookAtThatDog is on a distinguished road
Are you gonna put on a lift? You could put on aftermarket UCAs - That would replace the arm, ball joint and bushings all in one shot with less effort (but more money). Are you in the chicago toyota fb group? I might be free Sunday if you're still struggling.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/chitowntoyotas/
LookAtThatDog is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 03:26 PM #9
gamefreakgc's Avatar
gamefreakgc gamefreakgc is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Age: 36
Posts: 7,336
Real Name: Jerod
gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future
gamefreakgc gamefreakgc is offline
Elite Member
gamefreakgc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Age: 36
Posts: 7,336
Real Name: Jerod
gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future
The advice on here is how I did it too, minus the 27 mm socket. O'Reilly's has all you need. And don't bother trying to finangle the UBJ, just cut it off and whack that silly thing to oblivion. Don't forget to remove the snap rings!

If you are having trouble getting the new ones in and lined up, freeze them for a few hours and they will go in much easier since they will shrink once cold, allowing just a fraction more space for them to press in.
__________________
'98 4Runner SR5 - 4x4 JDM 5VZ-FE Supercharged - 249K miles.
326WHP 347TQ

AEM F/IC 6, 11 PSI, 3" Intake and 3" Exhaust
Jerod's Supercharged T[u]RD Build
gamefreakgc is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-05-2016, 11:15 AM #10
starclassic's Avatar
starclassic starclassic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 146
Real Name: Taylor
starclassic is on a distinguished road
starclassic starclassic is offline
Member
starclassic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 146
Real Name: Taylor
starclassic is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by LookAtThatDog View Post
Are you gonna put on a lift? You could put on aftermarket UCAs - That would replace the arm, ball joint and bushings all in one shot with less effort (but more money). Are you in the chicago toyota fb group? I might be free Sunday if you're still struggling.
I love how a single cracked boot can quickly turn into a compete UCA upgrade! You're totally right. I have the 3" Toytec lift but still have my stock UCAs on there. Now I'm thinking I better just get the Camburg UCA kit for the 3rd gen.

And yea ... I'm in the Chicago 4Runner group—I'm the guy that posted the recent poll about tires I might take you up on some help with the install once I figure out what I'm going to do about the UCAs.
__________________
'97 SR5 4X4 "Jake" | Build Thread
starclassic is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-05-2016, 11:30 AM #11
LookAtThatDog's Avatar
LookAtThatDog LookAtThatDog is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Chicago Suburbs
Posts: 435
Real Name: Mitch
LookAtThatDog is on a distinguished road
LookAtThatDog LookAtThatDog is offline
Member
LookAtThatDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Chicago Suburbs
Posts: 435
Real Name: Mitch
LookAtThatDog is on a distinguished road
I got the SPC ones and really like them. I've heard mixed things about the uniball joints but I have no experience with them.
LookAtThatDog is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
3rd gen , ball joint , diy , suspension help , upper ball joint

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: OEM 3rd Gen Upper Ball Joints UnderFire For Sale: Suspension/Wheels/Tires 2 05-25-2016 01:36 AM
upper ball joints freshley 3rd gen T4Rs 10 10-03-2015 08:50 AM
Upper Ball Joints Brentif 3rd gen T4Rs 3 01-15-2015 02:45 PM
upper ball joints Dondell 3rd gen T4Rs 5 01-18-2014 06:41 PM
Upper Ball Joints Mano1124 3rd gen T4Rs 7 08-06-2011 03:13 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:26 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020