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Old 01-18-2017, 12:24 AM #31
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" I'd like a manual but the wife can't drive a stick."

For some that is another reason to have the manual trans...
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My Base 1996 3RZ 4x4 auto has them. I love this model! It's light, simple and bulletproof. I'd like a manual but the wife can't drive a stick.
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Not true.....you let the inside of the vehicle fill with water, pull up on the lock, and open the door. By the time the inside fills, the pressure has equalized enough to open the door. Just don't panic and wait for it to fill.
Not gonna happen when I'm upside down, confused and enveloped in dark freezing water. But to fumble around and find the window handle while there is still only a little water inside and just remember to hold your breath and keep turning no matter what, way easier. A few years ago an ambulance went off the road nearby into a lake, they all died, couldn't get out.

Funny story, my friend has a Fisker Karma, which has fully electric everything including doors, there is no handle to pull. He was driving around with a dead electric battery I think, can't remember the exact story, so his electrics didn't work. He couldn't unlock the doors from the inside and the only way to unlock them was from the outside with the key but he had the key inside. So he had to call his wife on the cell phone which didn't work in his garage, and get her to bring the other set of keys, so he just cranked the stereo to full blast to get her attention. She opened the door and threw the keys in and shut the door afterwards so he still couldn't get out and all the keys were inside!!! He was yelling but she didn't get it. So he had to go drive around for 10 km in gas mode to recharge the battery in order to get out. That thing is a death trap.
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I don't know about you guys, but I kinda like my auto one touch power windows...
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I have always felt that power windows are a solution to a non-existant problem. Of course, one should be able to get them if one is fascinated with motors, space-age gimmicks, etc, and those that are handicapped may actually need them.
I'd convert mine to hand-crank, except the interior trim panels were too expensive new, and the junk yards know that they are rare.
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I always wanted manual windows in case you drive into a lake. You can't open the doors because of the water pressure. The electrical system will be shot so your electric windows won't work. You'd die.


Your windows will still work if they're in the water, just roll them down before you start sinking as long as they aren't under water with the pressure pushing on them.
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I always wanted manual windows in case you drive into a lake. You can't open the doors because of the water pressure. The electrical system will be shot so your electric windows won't work. You'd die.
I feel like this is a definite long shot.
And I won't use my cell phone because 4 people got brain cancer, and I'll never take an elevator because they fall and kill people in movies, and I'll never get a cat because I might get cat scratch fever, and I'll keep playing the powerball because the odds are in my favor....

Honestly, if you somehow manage to end up in a lake, Michael Scott, use the metal prongs on your headrest to break a window.

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I don't know about you guys, but I kinda like my auto one touch power windows...
I really like the one touch window for the passenger. Shame they removed that for the 4th gen...seriously...why take away options?

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I have always felt that power windows are a solution to a non-existant problem. Of course, one should be able to get them if one is fascinated with motors, space-age gimmicks, etc, and those that are handicapped may actually need them.
I'd convert mine to hand-crank, except the interior trim panels were too expensive new, and the junk yards know that they are rare.
When the weather is nice out I like having the option to open all 5 windows from my finger tips. Or close them when I get on the highway. Or keep them cracked a little on a warm rainy day, etc....
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I don't know about you guys, but I kinda like my auto one touch power windows...
I know that manual windows suck, especially on a vehicle like a 4Runner. I just like the rarity of the manual windows. Honestly if you truly only wanted manual windows when buying a new 4Runner twenty years ago, I think you are insane.
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I know that manual windows suck, especially on a vehicle like a 4Runner. I just like the rarity of the manual windows. Honestly if you truly only wanted manual windows when buying a new 4Runner twenty years ago, I think you are insane.
Yeah I appreciate the rarity as well, I didn't even know it was an option to not have power windows. Just teasing everyone a little. There's no way I'd swap them into my truck though, not like we have problems with our motors or controls frequently but I like the "neat" factor and if I saw them in a junkyard I'd pull everything as well and try to sell it.
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Not gonna happen when I'm upside down, confused and enveloped in dark freezing water. But to fumble around and find the window handle while there is still only a little water inside and just remember to hold your breath and keep turning no matter what, way easier. A few years ago an ambulance went off the road nearby into a lake, they all died, couldn't get out.

Funny story, my friend has a Fisker Karma, which has fully electric everything including doors, there is no handle to pull. He was driving around with a dead electric battery I think, can't remember the exact story, so his electrics didn't work. He couldn't unlock the doors from the inside and the only way to unlock them was from the outside with the key but he had the key inside. So he had to call his wife on the cell phone which didn't work in his garage, and get her to bring the other set of keys, so he just cranked the stereo to full blast to get her attention. She opened the door and threw the keys in and shut the door afterwards so he still couldn't get out and all the keys were inside!!! He was yelling but she didn't get it. So he had to go drive around for 10 km in gas mode to recharge the battery in order to get out. That thing is a death trap.

Do you have a manual or electric window equipped 4Runner?
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So there's a guy on here that worries he may drive into a lake one day.
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Do you have a manual or electric window equipped 4Runner?
Electric but I did see a manual one for sale here for $6000 a month or two ago with manual transmission and 4 cylinder. Looked interesting but a bit beat up.

Yes it's a long shot but we have lots of windy roads here with rivers, lakes and ocean just over the barrier.
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Electric but I did see a manual one for sale here for $6000 a month or two ago with manual transmission and 4 cylinder. Looked interesting but a bit beat up.

Yes it's a long shot but we have lots of windy roads here with rivers, lakes and ocean just over the barrier.
So the point is simply this: rather than worry about the possibility....make a plan of action. Either swap parts to get crank windows....or, carry a carbide tipped implement (my EDC pocket knife has one) to break your glass....or wait for the car to fill up. In short: have a plan is all I'm saying.
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So there's a guy on here that worries he may drive into a lake one day.
LOL, Anything can happen. Have a plan & be ready. I think I'll hit a deer before I drive into a lake. I plan on hitting the deer & not trying to avoid it, flipping over or crashing into a tree or both! The Shrockworks FB will save my 4R!

But yea, after you drive into the Raritan River, roll down your windows before the electric goes out, let it fill up & then open the door or just swim out the open window.
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