[phattyduck]

Originally Posted by kolelt

I'm pretty sure they don't make a 5100 specific to 3rd gen. Only 4th or 5th gen and FJ.

They do, as of the middle of 2016. Along with 3rd gen specific 6112 2.5" coilovers and soon rears remote shocks...

-Charlie

[kolelt]

Originally Posted by phattyduck

They do, as of the middle of 2016. Along with 3rd gen specific 6112 2.5" coilovers and soon rears remote shocks...

-Charlie

But there is no specific 5100. And don't get confused with front or the rear.

I have not seen Bilstein make at specific shocks for 3rd gen 4Runner. Only for Tacoma or newer 4Runner. That's why many run other truck shocks. Or different brand.

[silver4est]

Bilstein 5100 specific to the 3rd gen 4runner:

talked to Bilstein today...new 5100 shock info

best price I have found
24-248730.24-249966 - Bilstein 5100 Complete Set - Moore Racing Technology - Top Quality Offroad & Racing Parts

https://bilsteinlifts.com/product-ca...oyota-4runner/

[maclean216]

Buy it through Sonoran Steel and you won't have any problem with the warranty.

[1985taylor1925]

Originally Posted by kolelt

But there is no specific 5100. And don't get confused with front or the rear.

I have not seen Bilstein make at specific shocks for 3rd gen 4Runner. Only for Tacoma or newer 4Runner. That's why many run other truck shocks. Or different brand.

Yes, there is a 3rd gen specific 5100, as referenced below. Taco 5100s have 3 settings, tundra 5100 has 5, and the 4Runner 5100 has 4. It is specifically made and valved for the 3rd gen.

Originally Posted by silver4est

Bilstein 5100 specific to the 3rd gen 4runner:

talked to Bilstein today...new 5100 shock info

best price I have found
24-248730.24-249966 - Bilstein 5100 Complete Set - Moore Racing Technology - Top Quality Offroad & Racing Parts

https://bilsteinlifts.com/product-ca...oyota-4runner/

[kolelt]

My apologies then. For the longest we didn't have Bilstein make one.

But 5100 for 3rd gen vs 4th gen might be difference. As in 4th gen might be longer shock thus better for long coil. (REAR)

[Scramble]

Originally Posted by fourfive

I just saw in you sig that you have the 7.2 with 8 wraps. If you got them from SS then I think you may have the FJ /4th gen rear bilsteins (BIL 33-187174).

You were right, I always assumed they were Tundra Billys.

[Scramble]

Originally Posted by fourfive

SS uses BIL 33-187174 (FJ/4th gen rear) as option with his 890 lift kit. When I was in the process of buying my lift kit from Toytec, they said their bilstein long travel (BIL 33-187174) would be fine with the 890s but they had a disclaimer on their site stating it was best to use it with their superflex coils. I haven't seen those shocks offered on their site the last time I checked. My friend has my old 890s paired the toytecs long travel blisteins and hasn't had any issues since they were installed about 2 years ago. I checked Wheeler's and the Tundra rear bilstein compressed and extended shock length seemed a little shorter than the FJs if the length was a concern.

Wheelers has 2 sets of 3rd gen 5100's - One for 0-2" of lift & measure 12.91″ coll. X 20.79″ ext. (no model #)
And another set (same dims as Tundras) for 1-3" of lift & measure 13.84″ coll. x 22.44″ ext. (no model #)

Under 4th gen (same as FJ) they have the 33-187174 These measure 14.91″ coll. x 23.5″ ext.

The top stems on my SS FJ's are bent. I assume that's from wheelin' with 8 wraps. I had Tundras (24-100144) delivered to my house today from Amazon $73ea with Energy Sp bushings for $4. Even though my current FJ shocks should work, they obviously dont. Another difference in the 2 shocks are that the FJ/4th Gens collapse & expand from the bottom & The Tundra's do it from the top. Maybe the poly bushings will help over the metal sleeve bushings & not bend the shock. I know it doesnt make sense for me to go to a slightly shorter shock but many people have run the Tundras with 8 wraps over the years & never had a problem. We'll see how they do.

[fourfive]

Originally Posted by Scramble

The top stems on my SS FJ's are bent. I assume that's from wheelin' with 8 wraps. I had Tundras (24-100144) delivered to my house today from Amazon $73ea with Energy Sp bushings for $4. Even though my current FJ shocks should work, they obviously dont. Another difference in the 2 shocks are that the FJ/4th Gens collapse & expand from the bottom & The Tundra's do it from the top. Maybe the poly bushings will help over the metal sleeve bushings & not bend the shock. I know it doesnt make sense for me to go to a slightly shorter shock but many people have run the Tundras with 8 wraps over the years & never had a problem. We'll see how they do.

Curious how that happened? I'm assuming it wasn't from colliding with the body since the top stem is housed in that bowl thing. Maybe the top nut was too loose or tight? Have you talked with SS to see if anything like that has ever been previously reported to prevent it from happening again?

Let me know how the Tundra bilsteins ride compared to the Bil 33-187174.

[Scramble]

Originally Posted by fourfive

Curious how that happened? I'm assuming it wasn't from colliding with the body since the top stem is housed in that bowl thing. Maybe the top nut was too loose or tight? Have you talked with SS to see if anything like that has ever been previously reported to prevent it from happening again?

Let me know how the Tundra bilsteins ride compared to the Bil 33-187174.

I'm not sure, it didn't seem too tight when I put them on. Everything looked fine when I removed them. (not too tight or loose) I'm thinking my adj panhard bar isn't correct. It rides fine & only jolts left or right on sharp bumps?

[96RedRunner]

Originally Posted by Scramble

I'm not sure, it didn't seem too tight when I put them on. Everything looked fine when I removed them. (not too tight or loose) I'm thinking my adj panhard bar isn't correct. It rides fine & only jolts left or right on sharp bumps?

I can see it happening from PHB on the trail. That butt scoot you feel on hwy seams gets amplified when your stuffing a tire and flexing the other. The panhard arc travel gets all out of whack with adj bar in factory location. I've bent many SB end links from side to side flex. The rubber shock mounts only compress so far and it's like metal against metal. When you look at all the arc travels of a 4 link with PHB. Altering one has it's side affects.

[96RedRunner]

Been running SS1.2 v.2009 for -+ 100k miles TRD Tundra springs/Billy Tundra 5 perch Struts set on 2nd, till last week 3rd now, FZJ-80 8 wraps, Billy 5100 LC shocks, had Runner tore down checked Shock/strut compression rebound quality, very good! Past and current ride quaity is what you want any milage, it has been from day one.

I would use the same thing again, money well spent!!

Source for best price
Forget Adj PHB, get EimKeith PCK use oem bar
Front dif, drop simple to fab your own
Then ride for a 100K just my experience tho.

The Billy part numbers have been superceded but the same spec'd shocks/struts can be purchased.
Yota springs same part number.

[96RedRunner]

Originally Posted by maclean216

Buy it through Sonoran Steel and you won't have any problem with the warranty.

Didn't need a warranty in -+ 100k mi, not sure extra price worth it!

[maclean216]

Originally Posted by 96RedRunner

Didn't need a warranty in -+ 100k mi, not sure extra price worth it!

I've broke three!!!! LOL

[Run4Runnerr]

So if I'm wanting to lift my 99 3 in's with bilstein shocks front and rear. Which do I get??