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Warn M8000 and Shrockworks Bumper

Exhausted our advanced search feature for this combination and came up empty. A few hit and misses in the threads but nothing in the title or 3rd gen specific.

For those with the M8000 series (VR,S etc) AND a Shrockworks (...or other...not much difference in a winch mount) bumper looking for the following info:
  • Did you guys end up having to clock it?
  • Where did you install the control box?
  • Are any of you using the Warn 16296 retro plug? Hows it holding up and where did you install it? Pros/cons
  • Is the wireless remote worth the 100 bucks or just hard wire to switches and use the wired controller. (would rather have that as just a backup)

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That's a good question and one that I would like to know the answer to as well. I have a 98' t4r with a Shrockworks bumper and have been looking into this.
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Subed, will need a winch for my SW eventually.
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That's a good question and one that I would like to know the answer to as well. I have a 98' t4r with a Shrockworks bumper and have been looking into this.
I'll do a good write up in my build once I get all the details figured out.

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I picked up the Warn M8000s (proven performer) and the Factor 55 FlatLink E along with the Cascadia 4x4 Flipster V2.

I want to hide the control box and add the retro switch somewhere easily accessible. If the remote is good I'm not going to hard wire any switches.
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I put my control box in the engine bay by cruise control unit. I have also seen posts where people put it on the frame rail by the alternator. I opted for the remote instead of hard wiring to cab...works great.
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I have a ARB so I can't help there but I do know the m800 comes clocked feet down . I think the shrockworks is like the ARB which is feet forward .
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I'll preface this by saying that I don't have a Warn or a SW bumper, but a Smittybilt and AOR instead, but I think I may be of some use...

Mine is hidden in the engine bay. I also installed a marine grade battery cutoff switch so there is no power going to the winch unless I turn the switch. Just an extra safety measure in case of an accident and the power cable getting cut or some freak accident. Also keeps people from doing something stupid while I'm not looking.

I didn't get a wireless remote or in-cab controls. In cab controls would be kinda nice, but at the same time you're gonna have to get out to hook the winch up so you're already gonna be dirty. Might as well just hook up the wired remote while you're out there and run the control into the cab if that's where you'll be winching from. The cable on the wired controller should be plenty long.

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Then installed some fun things like my winch finally. Remote mounted the solenoid and mounted a Blue sea fuse battery disconnect switch inside the engine bay on the passenger side. It's all mounted on some left over tinted lexan I had left from when I made my fairing. Also got new longer higher gauge wires made for the power wires. They came form Greg's marine on eBay and they were very high quality. It was nice not having to mess with putting terminals or heat shrink on the cables either.





I'm really happy with how the winch install came out in the end. It was worth the extra work of taking the solenoid apart, rewiring, and all that.




Let me know if I can be of any other use...
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I've been eying some bumpers as well and was wondering about the ones that seem to sit down inside. But after seeing the Addicted plate there, that looks pretty sweet. Good looking rig. By the battery switch, that little fuse box, where did you get that? Thanks.

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[QUOTE=Rock_Rat;2598273]Exhausted our advanced search feature for this combination and came up empty.

I so appreciate your title. Just a little forethought will help everyone. BAM...you nailed it. Thanks!!!
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I put my control box in the engine bay by cruise control unit. I have also seen posts where people put it on the frame rail by the alternator. I opted for the remote instead of hard wiring to cab...works great.

That is a super slick front end man. I really dig the textured flat black grill and hood lead. Very nice.
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I put my control box in the engine bay by cruise control unit. I have also seen posts where people put it on the frame rail by the alternator. I opted for the remote instead of hard wiring to cab...works great.
It looks like you and @Unner mounted yours in a similar location. If the remote ever crapped out on you, you would have to use the remote with the hood open if I'm looking at this correctly.

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I have a ARB so I can't help there but I do know the m800 comes clocked feet down . I think the shrockworks is like the ARB which is feet forward .
You're correct on that. Feet forward.

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I'll preface this by saying that I don't have a Warn or a SW bumper, but a Smittybilt and AOR instead, but I think I may be of some use...

Mine is hidden in the engine bay. I also installed a marine grade battery cutoff switch so there is no power going to the winch unless I turn the switch. Just an extra safety measure in case of an accident and the power cable getting cut or some freak accident. Also keeps people from doing something stupid while I'm not looking.

I didn't get a wireless remote or in-cab controls. In cab controls would be kinda nice, but at the same time you're gonna have to get out to hook the winch up so you're already gonna be dirty. Might as well just hook up the wired remote while you're out there and run the control into the cab if that's where you'll be winching from. The cable on the wired controller should be plenty long.

Quoted from my build thread.


Let me know if I can be of any other use...
Unner, as always, it's great looking at your rig. Always love your attention to detail. I like the idea of the extra safety switch under the hood. I'll be going to a dual battery setup (Luna Pro) which is going to suck up more room with a switch and a relay. I think I might be able to piggy back on that system with a safety switch.

To operate your winch, you have the wired controller and the contactor box is under the hood or did you remotely move it somewhere off the controller? I didn't see that mentioned in your post.

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Exhausted our advanced search feature for this combination and came up empty.

I so appreciate your title. Just a little forethought will help everyone. BAM...you nailed it. Thanks!!!
Thanks @reelamin I always try and use titles in my build and posts that others can find using either the google or the advanced search feature. I like to start the topic in it's own thread and then move it to my build if needed or link to it. Soooooo much great information get's lost on this site. Wish there was an easier way to organize all of it.


From the looks of it, I need to take a trip to West Marine and build up three wires for my controller that will reach back to the ABS relay box.

There's not a lot of room in the bumper to move the clutch lever even if I do clock it. I might end up losing the freespooling feature and just leave it engaged.

I'll pick up the wireless remote but I still want to mount the Five wire retro plug as a back up without having the need to open my hood.


Summit Racing offers this in both the three wire and the five wire.
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The three black #2 AWG electrical cables are too short for anything except having the controller mounted to the winch or right next to it. My guess is, I'm going to have to go and build three longer cables.
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Good thing about wireless or wired remote is you can have anther person run the winch and you keep both hands on the wheel. I had a tire off a cliff edge due to accidenty getting sideways up a loose climb. I did not want one hand on wheel and work winch at same time in that situation.
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Good thing about wireless or wired remote is you can have anther person run the winch and you keep both hands on the wheel. I had a tire off a cliff edge due to accidenty getting sideways up a loose climb. I did not want one hand on wheel and work winch at same time in that situation.
Yea, I would like to have both my hands on the wheel in that situation!

Wireless or wired, I would want to have my hood closed so the optional retro plug seems like it should be a "necessity" unless there are other ideas out there.
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Welp,

"Did you guys end up having to clock it?
-What does that mean?
Where did you install the control box?
-Driverside of the winch, see the two mounting bolts next to the padeye.
Are any of you using the Warn 16296 retro plug? Hows it holding up and where did you install it? Pros/cons
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Is the wireless remote worth the 100 bucks or just hard wire to switches and use the wired controller. (would rather have that as just a backup)
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-Yes, if the plug is hard to access. No, if it is easy to access. Wireless is great and easy, but keeping that wired backup is a good idea.
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I've been eying some bumpers as well and was wondering about the ones that seem to sit down inside. But after seeing the Addicted plate there, that looks pretty sweet. Good looking rig. By the battery switch, that little fuse box, where did you get that? Thanks.
Thanks, Not sure what fuse box you're talking about. The thing mounted with the battery kill switch is the contactor box for the winch and the fuse box infront of it is an OEM Toyota one that's been in the truck since new.


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It looks like you and @Unner mounted yours in a similar location. If the remote ever crapped out on you, you would have to use the remote with the hood open if I'm looking at this correctly.



Unner, as always, it's great looking at your rig. Always love your attention to detail. I like the idea of the extra safety switch under the hood. I'll be going to a dual battery setup (Luna Pro) which is going to suck up more room with a switch and a relay. I think I might be able to piggy back on that system with a safety switch.

To operate your winch, you have the wired controller and the contactor box is under the hood or did you remotely move it somewhere off the controller? I didn't see that mentioned in your post.


From the looks of it, I need to take a trip to West Marine and build up three wires for my controller that will reach back to the ABS relay box.

There's not a lot of room in the bumper to move the clutch lever even if I do clock it. I might end up losing the freespooling feature and just leave it engaged.


The three black #2 AWG electrical cables are too short for anything except having the controller mounted to the winch or right next to it. My guess is, I'm going to have to go and build three longer cables.
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Thanks for the compliments! You've got a clean rig too!

For mine I open the hood, plug it in, and then close the hood on the first latch, but not the second latch. That leaves enough clearance to get the controller cable through the body gap without pinching it.

The only thing that I changed with my contactor box was I took it apart and added longer cables so it would reach back to where I mounted it. I'm not sure I understand your question.

@BigFishAllDay did something similar with his first winch on his 01. I used this post below in his build thread as a guide/inspiration when I was rewiring mine to go under the hood. He did an incab controller too. Might be something you want to take a look at if you haven't seen it already.
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Welp,

"Did you guys end up having to clock it?
-What does that mean?
Where did you install the control box?
-Driverside of the winch, see the two mounting bolts next to the padeye.
Are any of you using the Warn 16296 retro plug? Hows it holding up and where did you install it? Pros/cons
-Nope
Is the wireless remote worth the 100 bucks or just hard wire to switches and use the wired controller. (would rather have that as just a backup)
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-Yes, if the plug is hard to access. No, if it is easy to access. Wireless is great and easy, but keeping that wired backup is a good idea.
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