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Old 11-25-2019, 01:40 PM #31
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What’s the difference between the cap saying dextron ATF and the dextron III. Assuming just newer version of the factory fill and you can mix the two.

And what color is the factory dextron?
I have the same questions. My 3rd gen has only about 85k miles, never touched the power steeting fluid so what's in there is the factory dextron. If I want to add some to it - what should I add?
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I have the same questions. My 3rd gen has only about 85k miles, never touched the power steeting fluid so what's in there is the factory dextron. If I want to add some to it - what should I add?
Dexron III or compatible transmission fluid.
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I’ve been using ATF+4 for PS fluid that requires ATF for years. It’s synthetic and I have a huge amount of it when autozone had a close out and they were 1 dollar per quart. I’ve now gotten rid of most vehicles that use it. Still have plenty of it left.


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Apprecaited thanks. and it's ok to mix dextron and the dexton 3 ?
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Apprecaited thanks. and it's ok to mix dextron and the dexton 3 ?
There is only Dexron, but there are several versions of Dexron. Dexron VI is backwards compatible and mixable with Dexron IV and Dexron III. Any transmission fluid that says it is compatible with Dexron III will mix fine. The power steering system isn't as picky about fluid as our automatic transmissions are.


Edit: Just to make it clear Dexton/Dextron/etc are just wrongly spelled versions of "Dexron".
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Brake fluid doesn't "recondition" rubber seals that aren't made for brake fluid. It causes them to swell and if they swell enough it can cause them to tear or interfere with moving parts. Please only use the correct fluid for your application.
I'm not going to argue with you. I've only been working on cars for 55 years... what do I know?
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My 3rd gen has only about 85k miles, never touched the power steeting fluid so what's in there is the factory dextron. If I want to add some to it - what should I add?
You should change out the old fluid at that mileage/age. I use the stuff labelled "Dex-Merc". ATF Dex/Merc - Valvoline™
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Brake Fluid in the power steering is the dumbest thing I've ever heard pertaining these systems. Stick to ATF. If you have the urge to condition those seals without rebuilding the whole system, then the closest thing I can offer is that I stopped a slow power steering leak in my Volvo 850 by flushing it with the Maxlife ATF with stopleak additive. Not a fan of these products either but I had the car for 6 years after that and it never leaked again. Level was always full and red. No sludging or whining in the cold. Worth a shot to any of you.
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Brake Fluid in the power steering is the dumbest thing I've ever heard pertaining these systems. Stick to ATF. If you have the urge to condition those seals without rebuilding the whole system, then the closest thing I can offer is that I stopped a slow power steering leak in my Volvo 850 by flushing it with the Maxlife ATF with stopleak additive. Not a fan of these products either but I had the car for 6 years after that and it never leaked again. Level was always full and red. No sludging or whining in the cold. Worth a shot to any of you.
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Oh boy, here we go again. Can't we just agree to disagree and move on? I can completely understand that we all are not going to agree on things. However, getting mad and frustrated isn't going to solve anything.

The brake fluid in non brake systems has been around forever. I personally think its a very bad idea. As when seals are worn swelling them is just a patch and that is what used car lots used to do as they were getting rid of the vehicles. Just like they used to put saw dust in differentials and manual transmissions to quiet the failing bearing down and warn gear noise so they sounded good. However, these are patches not repairs because the bearings are still bad and the seal is still in need of replacement.

Maybe some people don't care and all they are looking into is short term. Then these methods may work for them as long as the Owner of the vehicle does it and knowing the consequences, that is their choice.

However, when used car lots do it, or people trying to sale a used car, its actually fraud as they are misleading the buyers of the condition of the vehicles. :-(
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That's all well and good, but he never called you dumb. Smart and capable people can have dumb ideas and say dumb things. Also, there are many things that worked well on a car 40 years ago that would ruin a more modern car.

At the very least, I would be concerned about putting a hygroscopic fluid in a system not designed to handle water, other fluid incompatibilities aside.

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There is only Dexron, but there are several versions of Dexron. Dexron VI is backwards compatible and mixable with Dexron IV and Dexron III. Any transmission fluid that says it is compatible with Dexron III will mix fine. The power steering system isn't as picky about fluid as our automatic transmissions are.


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Ok, but what I mean is, the cap says Dextron ATF on the cap. Was there a version I? I just want to add some as it's very low and want to add to the factory stuff that's in there. My question was if there is a Dextron I or if it's ok to add some Dextron III in with the Dextron I it seems that came with it... I'd assume the III is compatible with the original Dextron in there?
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Ok, but what I mean is, the cap says Dextron ATF on the cap. Was there a version I? I just want to add some as it's very low and want to add to the factory stuff that's in there. My question was if there is a Dextron I or if it's ok to add some Dextron III in with the Dextron I it seems that came with it... I'd assume the III is compatible with the original Dextron in there?
Trying not to sound snarky, but if you are having trouble finding info googling "dextron", and compatibility, it's because you're spelling it wrong.

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