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Brakes...worth the Tundra upgrade?
My brakes are on the way out. Either gonna get new pads (less $$$) or do the Tundra upgrade (more $$$). Just curious since it is popular, do I absolutely HAVE to go up to the 231s? I have the stock 5 spoke 16" rims so they'll fit according to Big Fish All Day's page on this.
I was looking at RockAuto today and they have the full Tundra kit for $270. This is the Power Stop Z23 kit with rotors, calipers, pads, etc.
Anyone hear good things about these vs OEM?
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04-12-2017, 01:55 AM
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You can junk yard it all, rebuild the calipers super easy and cheap like 15 bucks for rebuild kit, I paid 12 bucks for both calipers a few months back, then I found rotors at different junk yard that were really nice, had them re turned at Napa and I think I'm into my TBU for under 60 bucks total....including brake fluid and paper towels haha
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04-12-2017, 02:09 AM
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Another thing I wanted to know was whether the tundra 199s are better than the stock 4runner. In the rare event I need to change a tire, I don't want the spare tire to not fit over the 231s. I read that the stock spares are smaller rims. I don't actually know if my spare is stock though..
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04-12-2017, 02:51 AM
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I'm gonna say the 199's are better, as far as stopping, less warping than t4r stock, I never thought about the whole spare tire situation, but you could always move a rear tire/wheel to the front and run the spare in the rear in the event that you do get a front flat. Maybe others with more knowledge on the 199's pro's/con's will chime in tomorrow, I'm not an expert by any means but hope it helps ya! Lol
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Another thing I wanted to know was whether the tundra 199s are better than the stock 4runner. In the rare event I need to change a tire, I don't want the spare tire to not fit over the 231s. I read that the stock spares are smaller rims. I don't actually know if my spare is stock though..
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I'm pretty sure my steel spare won't fit the tundra calipers. I'm considering putting a spare matching wheel underneath as the spare. 
These are my wheels and I have the calipers high spot ground down to clear these wheels with no modification or grinding on the wheel.
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yes and yes, the best upgrade on a 3rd gen.
go find a spare from a limited or go find a limited rim 6 spoke i think.
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04-12-2017, 08:31 AM
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x2 ^^^^^ BEST "mod" you'll ever do coupled with SS brake lines.
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I'm pretty sure my steel spare won't fit the tundra calipers. I'm considering putting a spare matching wheel underneath as the spare.
These are my wheels and I have the calipers high spot ground down to clear these wheels with no modification or grinding on the wheel.
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You can toss a wheel spacer in the back just incase you want to change to the spare, but i call AAA even tho i have a truck full of tools. I ground a bit on the stock wheels. Fits my 231upgrade just fine. Just plan to adjust the rear brakes too
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04-12-2017, 09:21 AM
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I'm going to go against the grain and say if you don't tow a trailer, or have oversized tires, then there's no reason to change to Tundra brakes.
Curious if any of the folks who recommend this are running stock tire size. I run 265/75 and occasionally tow a light tent trailer or utility trailer (<2500 lb) and I've never had an issue with the stock braking system.
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If I had not used my 4runner to tow my boats for two summers then I would not have put the Tundra brakes on.
If you tow and/or do a good bit of off road exploring, then by all means.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, YES. But that might be because I have the Powerstop Kit sitting on my garage floor waiting for me to install it. lol
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Yes it's worth it. Yes 5 spoke wheels fit over them.
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Originally Posted by I_bRAD
I'm going to go against the grain and say if you don't tow a trailer, or have oversized tires, then there's no reason to change to Tundra brakes.
Curious if any of the folks who recommend this are running stock tire size. I run 265/75 and occasionally tow a light tent trailer or utility trailer (<2500 lb) and I've never had an issue with the stock braking system.
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Same here. My rig's got no armour and I never tow. So aside from 285/75R16 tires, it's pretty much basic duty with my T4R. I also have the Limited which does have the slightly larger brakes to begin with. I never felt the need to do the TBU.
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I did the power stop TBU and was very impressed minus some noises and the dust 
If you upsize tires, especially to an e load, this is a crucial upgrade
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I'm gonna say the 199's are better, as far as stopping, less warping than t4r stock, I never thought about the whole spare tire situation, but you could always move a rear tire/wheel to the front and run the spare in the rear in the event that you do get a front flat. Maybe others with more knowledge on the 199's pro's/con's will chime in tomorrow, I'm not an expert by any means but hope it helps ya! Lol
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I bought some simple 1/4" wheel spacers for this situation, it's enough to clear the calipers with them on. But just moving the tires around works too.
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I'm going to go against the grain and say if you don't tow a trailer, or have oversized tires, then there's no reason to change to Tundra brakes.
Curious if any of the folks who recommend this are running stock tire size. I run 265/75 and occasionally tow a light tent trailer or utility trailer (<2500 lb) and I've never had an issue with the stock braking system.
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Yup, stock tires size here.
I don't don't tow either but did it because I was having trouble stopping on hills or highways situations when I needed to stop very fast. Had a few times when ABS would kick in too.
The Tundra brake upgrade greatly improved my stopping distance. New tires a few years later took care of my ABS issues.
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