[Sears&Roebuck]

Please don't crucify me, I searched the forum before making this post, maybe I missed something

I have a 97 sr5 and I noticed it doesn't have insulation under the hood. Research told me that they didn't start putting the insulation on until the 99's. I want to get this and put it on mine, but I can only find it on toyotapartsdirect.ca and I'm not trying to pay $380 for a blanket...

Does anyone know of any other sites I can get this from? ebay and amazon are dry... I've considered just using dynamat or something. I mainly want this insulation to protect my paint on the top side and for noise reduction. but mostly for noise reduction. Junk yards are my last resort. but I would probably go with dynamat before I go to a junk yard.

this is the part I'm looking for 1999 Toyota 4Runner 3400CC EFI, MANUAL, 5-SPEED. #5334135022: INSULATOR, HOOD. INSULATOR, HOOD

[seabun]

Why would a junk yard be your last resort? It will be the cheapest way to get oem by far, couldn't be more than $20 for a part like that. However, a quick look at Amayama shows they carry the part number you listed at $117+shipping. Idk where you're located but I put in my address and it was $30, so $147 total for oem. That will likely be your lowest price option other than salvage yard.

And keep in mind the oem insulation was also designed to smother any engine bay fires before they got too big; it would detach its clips and "blanket" the engine. Dynamat may provide sound deadening and paint protection but won't perform like the oem part bc it would be stuck to the hood I'm guessing. Hope this helps.

[Sears&Roebuck]

that does help a lot. can you give me the link on amazon? I tried searching the part number and couldn't find anything

edit* oops you said amayama my bad!

also, okay like, go ahead and laugh but; I'm really new to cars and things and junkyards intimidate me. there I said it

[ATX-Runner]

Or you could use Thermo-Tec heat shield.

[pauldub]

I doubt if you would get much noise reduction since there's not a direct path between the hood and the cabin of the vehicle. Most engine noise comes through the firewall and floor. You can study up at sounddeadnershowdown.com

[AntleredRuin]

Originally Posted by Sears&Roebuck

also, okay like, go ahead and laugh but; I'm really new to cars and things and junkyards intimidate me. there I said it

Haha, I'm laughing, but I understand. I've more or less grown up around vehicles and learned to wrench on an old Jeep, but I'd never been to a junkyard until I bought my 4Runner a couple years ago. It was pretty intimidating at first, like I felt I was doing something wrong somehow. Now, I go to yards during my lunch break just for the peace and quiet. Never more than a few people in one at any given time, and all the car piles block the noise pretty well. It's relaxing. If you don't think too much about the accidents the cars were in. Pretend they were all crash dummy cars.
Just make sure to always bring a few buck and a good attitude. If the cashier likes you, he'll most likely cut you a deal. And they like if you pay in cash, too. I guess because of 'under the table' transactions, but hey. Your win.
A great way to learn about vehicles, too, if you have a vague idea as to what you're looking at. You can see parts and angles that you normally never would on a whole complete vehicle sitting on pavement.

I'm not sure how the yards are in your part of Oregon, but in Houston, you can just walk right in and have the place to yourself. I don't even take the main doors anymore, as I know where the 4runners are in my yards and don't have to ask; I take the entrance used for the forklifts and vehicles.
You might have a worker ask what you're looking for every now and then, but that's about it.
Most won't let you bring your own tools, but I keep a couple screwdrivers and a small ratchet and a few sockets in my pockets anyways. I'd just feel ridiculous asking the front desk for help to remove a piece that I can easily do myself with minimal tools in 30 seconds. That plus the wait time for a worker to get to you after he's done doing something else. I've never had anyone complain.

Junk yards are most definitely the monetarily smart thing to do. I've actually been surprised several times at how low parts are. (maybe because the cashier liked me, but still). I had to make him repeat himself, just to make sure I heard correctly.
The part may be a bit dirty, but a little elbow grease and it'll usually clean right up.

So, long story short (too late), try out a junk yard. A lotta fun, and always the cheapest route.

[Sears&Roebuck]

Right on. Thanks for that post. My biggest hang up about the idea of going to a junk yard was that I don't have a lot of tools myself. I know some of the ones around here you have to bring your own tools. Maybe when I get some time I'll go get my feet wet and feel it out

[octanejunkie]

Originally Posted by Sears&Roebuck

Right on. Thanks for that post. My biggest hang up about the idea of going to a junk yard was that I don't have a lot of tools myself. I know some of the ones around here you have to bring your own tools. Maybe when I get some time I'll go get my feet wet and feel it out

Aside from the placidity of the yards, you can learn a lot just looking and usually you can wrench on, pry on, beat on anything you want - so you can see what it takes to break something (with the idea being not to break yours)

You need your own tools for pull-your-own yards, so go to Harbor Freight and buy a set of wrenches, SAE and Metric, Screwdrivers, Pry Bars, Sockets, Ratchets, Extensions, A breaker bar or two, a tool box and a dolly or hand truck. Some yards dont allow cutting tools which is why I didn't mention them, but a good cordless kit with drill, impact and sawzall is nice to have.

I have a beater set of tools for the yards and always bring a blanket, gloves and a hoodie that you can take off - oh and a few towels (one to cover your seat on the way home) old beater boots and some wet wipes.

Welcome to the hobby

[TheDurk]

Originally Posted by pauldub

I doubt if you would get much noise reduction since there's not a direct path between the hood and the cabin of the vehicle. Most engine noise comes through the firewall and floor. You can study up at sounddeadnershowdown.com

You'd be surprised. I haven't driven the 4Runner with no insulation, but i had a 1985 BMW 735i whose hood insulation had dissolved and I ripped it out. When I reinstalled a new mat, the difference was dramatic. In fact, I'd look into a BMW e23 aftermarket mat. it's peel and stick, and much heavier than the Toyota one, and I think about the same size...and much cheaper.

[99Runnr]

I have my new sport hood on the truck and did not add the OEM mat back on. I kept it, but I notice no difference in noise/resonance and my entire cab is covered in second skin sound deadening. To each his own, very valid point about fire protection, otherwise, I do not see the point personally.

I too, have a 97. My factory hood had the mat on it, and my truck is a "base" model. So, they do have them. Mine definitely wasn't aftermarket. I think someone else covered that, I skimmed sorry.

[Sears&Roebuck]

aside from cheap cosmetic mods (plasti-dipped the grill black, covered all the chrome on the truck black with plasti-dip, going to do the interior dash in black plasti-dip and the trim in red plasti-dip, going to get black carpet from stock interiors) my main focus is in making the ride quieter and I would love to improve fuel economy but with my tires I think I'm shot in the foot there. lol

[AntleredRuin]

Originally Posted by Sears&Roebuck

Right on. Thanks for that post. My biggest hang up about the idea of going to a junk yard was that I don't have a lot of tools myself. I know some of the ones around here you have to bring your own tools. Maybe when I get some time I'll go get my feet wet and feel it out

To an extent, I actually like that some won't let you bring your own tools. This means that I don't have to essentially do a job twice. I don't have to remove the junkyard part, then remove my T4R part and then install the junkyard part. I don't think that they charge more either if they grab it for you.
Like when I got my brakes for my TBU (or really SBU) upgrade. I looked around, found what I wanted, then told the guy at the desk about the white '05 Sequoia in the 3rd row, and then I sat in the air conditioned office while the parts guy went and lifted the front of the Sequoia and removed the front calipers and rotors. And I was out the door for $80 which my research shows is a really good deal.

Originally Posted by octanejunkie

old beater boots and some wet wipes.

Add to this a roll of paper towels, a jug of water, and a spray bottle of Simple Green. That'll clean any grease and grime right off.

[Sears&Roebuck]

Thanks. You guys are the best. I'd love to go poking around for some odds and ends. I really want to get fender flares, but $489 for bushwhackers.....

[JoshuaDudee]

I actually tore off my insulation under the hood and I notice no difference. I went through a huge puddle and it was soaked and tore off in some spots. It was touching the belts so I just ripped that shit out and threw it in the back where I threw it away once I got back into main road.


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[weezykid]

My 96 does not have the insulation (bought it from a yota dealer at 89k) and hasnt since i have owned it. Figured some of the older ones did not have it. I do not notice any high levels of noise coming from under the hood than any other vehicles I have owned..