06-20-2017, 01:20 PM
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5 speed swap?
Anybody put a 5 speed behind their 3.4L?
I'm not a huge fan of auto's and from what I've read they are the weak link.
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06-20-2017, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WenatcheeSkier
Anybody put a 5 speed behind their 3.4L?
I'm not a huge fan of auto's and from what I've read they are the weak link.
Thanks.
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Look at Tyler James build thread right below this thread
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06-20-2017, 01:35 PM
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Plenty have. Use the search function to see some good write ups. The older models (96-00?) came with a 5-speed option so it's fairly straightforward, you just need to buy a 5-speed donor vehicle.
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06-20-2017, 01:35 PM
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Why would you say it is a weak link? It is pretty much the same trans as was put behind the Supra TT motor and a few Toyota V8's...
Neglect it and you can have problems, I suppose.
That said, I would prefer a manual too... I've done manual swaps on other cars though. It just isn't worth it for how I use the 4Runner.
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06-20-2017, 01:40 PM
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Weak link?! I would argue that for sure.
Google "3rd gen 4Runner manual swap" etc.
Lots have done it. Difficulty depends on your abilities. Do some google searching, and lots of reading. Plenty of info out there I this
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06-20-2017, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by phattyduck
Why would you say it is a weak link? It is pretty much the same trans as was put behind the Supra TT motor and a few Toyota V8's...
Neglect it and you can have problems, I suppose.
That said, I would prefer a manual too... I've done manual swaps on other cars though. It just isn't worth it for how I use the 4Runner.
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Who in their right mind would choose a 4sp auto over the 6sp stick in a TT supra? I had no idea auto was even an option on those.
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06-20-2017, 02:02 PM
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Weak link is what I have heard others on the board say. There is always a difference in opinion.
I just don't like Auto's. My 84 P/U with 38s and 5.29's was a Manual and it was pretty darn tough.
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06-20-2017, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WenatcheeSkier
Weak link is what I have heard others on the board say. There is always a difference in opinion.
I just don't like Auto's. My 84 P/U with 38s and 5.29's was a Manual and it was pretty darn tough.
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I miss my manual P/U as well, but manuals are getting harder and harder to find. Even high-end sports cars have silly paddle shifters, not a real stick.
Our transmission is not terrible by any means though. It's just a little goofy sometimes but very reliable.
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06-20-2017, 02:33 PM
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Who in their right mind would choose a 4sp auto over the 6sp stick in a TT supra? I had no idea auto was even an option on those.
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Most 911's are sold in auto (before the PDK) and now are pretty much only available with an 'auto' (PDK). No accounting for taste. Oh, and the 1jz-gte/2jz-gte was available in other non-Supra vehicles as auto-only in Japan...
My 4Runner is the first car I have owned that isn't manual or isn't getting swapped to a manual.
I don't think anyone is saying the manual isn't better. We are just saying the auto isn't a weak link in the drivetrain. (the older A340H, on the other hand has major drawbacks...)
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06-20-2017, 02:41 PM
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06-20-2017, 02:49 PM
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I did manual swap. Along with repin auto harness to accept manual ecu to eliminate the check engine light. Did the swap in about 4 hours. Longest part was repin the harnes
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06-21-2017, 09:17 AM
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I'm in the middle of a swap now. I can't wait to finish the job.
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06-21-2017, 09:30 AM
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everything is basically basic. Its been a while so im sorry if i miss something. But you need transmission/tcase. Both drive shafts. Interior pieces. Clutch pedal. Id recommend getting new slave cylinder and clutch master. Get a supra slave to master line. Master to Slave Cylinder Complete Stainless Clutch Line 1993-1998 Toyota Supra | eBay
the easiest line ever! you can trick your auto ecu for a while. But if you have 96-97 the ecu between auto and manual are different including different pin locations for same functions. 98 might be the same way, im not 100% sure though, because it might not. So anything after 97 or 98 is plug and play between auto and manual. In my build thread i have write up on how to connect your clutch cancel button. And there's a simply way of making your cruise control work
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06-21-2017, 02:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kolelt
everything is basically basic. Its been a while so im sorry if i miss something. But you need transmission/tcase. Both drive shafts.
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While ideally you want both drive shafts, you can get away with only using the front. Using a 1" spacer for the rear driveshaft is recommended though if you stick with your OEM.
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06-21-2017, 04:17 PM
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Yeah, I'm running the stock rear shaft, and it's about 1.5" shorter with a 3.5" rear lift.
You also don't need the xfer case- depending on what you want. Any of the 4 3rd gen xfer cases will bolt up to the manual trans, but the length of case is different for both multi-mode cases.
Unless you have to re-pin your ECU- the wiring is super easy. Even re-pinning that is easy, it just takes some time and EWD back-and-forth work.
4 wires to splice under the dash to make the clutch start switch and cruise cancel switch at the pedal work, and an additional +12v and ground to make the clutch start cancel button on the dash work.
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