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amazon is easier. I was just stating ebay because its easier to compare the companies and pages. As far as Toyota parts, yeah just ask for the 2003 tundra parts. I used 2006 4wd v8 for my "guide" or "car". Go to camelbacktoyota.com or citytoyota.com and the parts section should give you illustrations of the parts as well as prices and part numbers. Some dealers make you contact them but there are some that let you go through the listings. freemantoyota.com is another cheaper online seller
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09-04-2017, 06:12 PM
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09-04-2017, 06:16 PM
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If you prefer OEM, you can either get them from the dealer or from a junkyard. look for a 2004-2006 Tundra. If you get the calipers from the junkyard, it would be good if you get a brake repair kit from the dealer.
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Hey man, thanks for the reply. I am pretty sold on the 231's now. So do I just need 5 mm spacers to make it happen (as was said above). And where did you get your parts from? I am usually an OEM kinda guy, but what do you think about that amazon link?
Is this what you got?
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09-04-2017, 06:24 PM
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original link to tundra brake upgrade posted back in 2011
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09-04-2017, 06:32 PM
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bummer - Callahan brake parts does not ship to Vancouver, Canada. I will have to find another source. Checking out other sites i suppose.
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09-04-2017, 06:38 PM
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Man, you guys are the best. I got my cc out ready to order this. Hey Jason,
The links you sent, I am not able to 'see' part #4 on the upper part (the 4WD parts) and there is not link in the right for the rotor.
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09-04-2017, 06:39 PM
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you beat me to it......
no yours will not fit without spacers or grinding
that thread will also show what wheel will fit without spacers or grinding. And regardless if the wheels do fit, without spacers etc, The 4runner spare tire/wheel will not
so my spare is now the original 5 star that does fit.
and now my studded snows are on matching 5 stars, they were mounted on your style
no spacers or grinding for me.
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09-04-2017, 06:49 PM
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231 or 199's
Back when I decided to do this, I had the same challenges as you. All 4R's up to 98 had the split 3's (that's yours), after that, the LTD's came with a few options, the most popular being the "5 stars". As you're aware, the split 3's won't fit over the 231's but the later LTD rims all fit over the 231's.
I did some research back when I was wrestling with decision, and found a few guys that went with the 1/4" spacers. However, on the advice of others and making some measurements, I decided the 1/4" spacer was a bad idea. There are basically, 2 types of rims-- hub centric and lug centric. Most stock rims are hub centric where the rim seating and weight bearing are provided by a 1/4" lip on the hub which mate with the rim. If you put a 1/4" spacer on the hub you loose this weight and alignment point. the entire weight will now sit on the lugs--- which the stock rims weren't designed to do. It's probably fine, however I go off road and I didn't want to be the one to discover that this became a weak joint! As well as loosing this hub contact, you loose 1/4" lug thread depth. Not a great idea seeing that all weight will now be carried by the lugs! Others use 1.5 wheel spacers which is a totally different matter. These are designed with the hub lip and they utilize their own lugs. I didn't want to go with spacers, as there has been a couple of spacer failures (do a search on this site).
The other option--- grinding the inside of the rims--- really not a great idea...
I ended up replacing my rims with newer LTD's---- I paid $175 for 4 and sold my split 3's for $150. I refinished the new rims and painted them a colour I wanted.
I strongly advise you read through BFAD write up on this---- if you're interested in the 199's he mentions them in the thread. This is the gold standard on this conversion.
Hard to find Specs, Info & Measurements on 231mm 13WL Tundra Calipers & Rotors
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by 99_RRdifflock
Man, you guys are the best. I got my cc out ready to order this. Hey Jason,
The links you sent, I am not able to 'see' part #4 on the upper part (the 4WD parts) and there is not link in the right for the rotor.
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Sorry I neglected to hit quote on my reply.... See my response. Again, good luck!
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Originally Posted by 3bears
you beat me to it......
no yours will not fit without spacers or grinding
that thread will also show what wheel will fit without spacers or grinding. And regardless if the wheels do fit, without spacers etc, The 4runner spare tire/wheel will not
so my spare is now the original 5 star that does fit.
and now my studded snows are on matching 5 stars, they were mounted on your style
no spacers or grinding for me.
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https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/pml/...293147264.html
For instance, will these rims fit my rig? Is there a tire fitment chart by year / model somewhere?
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Originally Posted by poleclimber63
Back when I decided to do this, I had the same challenges as you. All 4R's up to 98 had the split 3's (that's yours), after that, the LTD's came with a few options, the most popular being the "5 stars". As you're aware, the split 3's won't fit over the 231's but the later LTD rims all fit over the 231's.
I did some research back when I was wrestling with decision, and found a few guys that went with the 1/4" spacers. However, on the advice of others and making some measurements, I decided the 1/4" spacer was a bad idea. There are basically, 2 types of rims-- hub centric and lug centric. Most stock rims are hub centric where the rim seating and weight bearing are provided by a 1/4" lip on the hub which mate with the rim. If you put a 1/4" spacer on the hub you loose this weight and alignment point. the entire weight will now sit on the lugs--- which the stock rims weren't designed to do. It's probably fine, however I go off road and I didn't want to be the one to discover that this became a weak joint! As well as loosing this hub contact, you loose 1/4" lug thread depth. Not a great idea seeing that all weight will now be carried by the lugs! Others use 1.5 wheel spacers which is a totally different matter. These are designed with the hub lip and they utilize their own lugs. I didn't want to go with spacers, as there has been a couple of spacer failures (do a search on this site).
The other option--- grinding the inside of the rims--- really not a great idea...
I ended up replacing my rims with newer LTD's---- I paid $175 for 4 and sold my split 3's for $150. I refinished the new rims and painted them a colour I wanted.
I strongly advise you read through BFAD write up on this---- if you're interested in the 199's he mentions them in the thread. This is the gold standard on this conversion.
Hard to find Specs, Info & Measurements on 231mm 13WL Tundra Calipers & Rotors
Good luck!
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Hey Last question....
Is 13WE casting the same as S13WE?
Does the "S" note anything different
I think I am pretty sold on the 199 mm upgrade over changing wheels. I can source the parts for pretty cheap - and you are right, I am skiddish on the wheel spacers.
Thanks for all your help guys.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 99_RRdifflock
Man, you guys are the best. I got my cc out ready to order this. Hey Jason,
The links you sent, I am not able to 'see' part #4 on the upper part (the 4WD parts) and there is not link in the right for the rotor.
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If you scroll down youll find a second diagram with #10 as the rotor. and #4 on the second diagram is for the ABS rotor.
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09-07-2017, 12:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 99_RRdifflock
Hey Last question....
Is 13WE casting the same as S13WE?
Does the "S" note anything different
I think I am pretty sold on the 199 mm upgrade over changing wheels. I can source the parts for pretty cheap - and you are right, I am skiddish on the wheel spacers.
Thanks for all your help guys.
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Sorry, I don't really know about the S.
Depending how much effort you want to do, you can do it pretty cheap. I acquired my 13WL's from a wrecking yard for $20 ea, I soaked them in de-rusting solution, and re-built them. I think the seal kit was $25 total. and 4 coats of red engine enamel. Maybe $70 for both.
Good luck!
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Ok, New 4runner owner.. Just bought 99 Limited, want to clarify 231mm will plug and play on stock 16" (5 star Toyota) rims, i dont want to grind anything... I got a toyota parts manager hookup this weekend and can get parts at cost...
so many threads my head is spinning and getting lost
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