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Rubbing with 33's and 3in lift :(
Hello, 2000 4Runner Limited. Have a 3in Rough Country lift with 33s (LT285 /75 R16), I also got aftermarket rims that are 8in wide with 16 X8.5 6-139.70 -6.
Everything looks GREAT! But am I rubbing badly in reverse on the back corner / pinch weld. I am reluctant to smash or cut the weld. Two options:
1 - get 32's instead
2 - get a 1in body lift
Question is, if I go with 32's or the 1 in lift, will I clear with this setup? Here are the exact rims and tires:
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/b...rike-6/p/62107
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/b...-a-ko2/p/10373
Man does it look sharp. Rubbing is unacceptable though Thanks for the input.
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10-31-2017, 08:19 PM
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I can't give you a definitive if a 1" body lift will clear or not. But...
Have you looked into aftermarket upper control arms? When you lift it throws your suspension out of spec, by pulling your wheels further back. After market UCAs can put your tires back in spec, by getting your tires back to positive caster. You can even get adjustable UCAs by SPC, so you can fine tune your caster to what works best for you. If you have room in front of the tires between the tires and the front bumper, that's the route I would go.
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10-31-2017, 08:41 PM
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Hmmm. Most guys clear 33" tires with 3" lift. That's like normal.
Maybe get wheel spacers ?
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10-31-2017, 09:11 PM
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The BL will help. But you should at least first try bending the pinch joint flat with a crescent wrench and light hammering ( you can do it without pounding the crap out of it). The use a heat gun to try and mold the fender liner out of the way.
How is your UCA clearance?
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10-31-2017, 09:36 PM
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The BL will help. But you should at least first try bending the pinch joint flat with a crescent wrench and light hammering ( you can do it without pounding the crap out of it). The use a heat gun to try and mold the fender liner out of the way.
How is your UCA clearance?
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Thanks, I seem to have a lot of space between the tire and UCA:
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10-31-2017, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nowashburn
Hello, 2000 4Runner Limited. Have a 3in Rough Country lift with 33s (LT285 /75 R16), I also got aftermarket rims that are 8in wide with 16 X8.5 6-139.70 -6.
Everything looks GREAT! But am I rubbing badly in reverse on the back corner / pinch weld. I am reluctant to smash or cut the weld. Two options:
1 - get 32's instead
2 - get a 1in body lift
Question is, if I go with 32's or the 1 in lift, will I clear with this setup? Here are the exact rims and tires:
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/b...rike-6/p/62107
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/b...-a-ko2/p/10373
Man does it look sharp. Rubbing is unacceptable though Thanks for the input.
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What's your caster amount on your alignment sheet?
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10-31-2017, 11:43 PM
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What's your caster amount on your alignment sheet?
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This ^^^
When you get an alignment, ask them to max out your caster while keeping your camber as close to 0 degrees as possible. That should fix your issue.
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11-01-2017, 12:26 AM
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Zero rub with no after market control arms, no body lift and just 4.5" back spacing. Complete turned locked and max flex I don't rub. I recently installed spacers too prepare for the 305/65/17 tires..
@ JayRolla
is right what's your caster...
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11-01-2017, 08:16 AM
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This ^^^
When you get an alignment, ask them to max out your caster while keeping your camber as close to 0 degrees as possible. That should fix your issue.
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Thanks, I'll get it realigned, hopefully it resolves the rubbing. Are there particular measurements I should ask for or just tell the shop to max out your caster while keeping your camber as close to 0 degrees as possible?
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The rolling chassis we purchased has exactly this set up on it....only with stock wheels. It also has wheel spacers on it and there is no rub. I'd personally start with the alignment and then try a set of spacers if needed.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nowashburn
Thanks, I'll get it realigned, hopefully it resolves the rubbing. Are there particular measurements I should ask for or just tell the shop to max out your caster while keeping your camber as close to 0 degrees as possible?
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Toe - 0 to -.10
Camber - 0
Caster - 1.5* or more.
Tell them you want the maximum caster possible without putting camber way off. If they can hey you 1.5* or more you should have tons of clearance on 33" tires and stock ucas.
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I re-read your post again. Where exactly are you rubbing? You say back corner/pinch weld. Is that back corner AND pinch weld area?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkntoy
I re-read your post again. Where exactly are you rubbing? You say back corner/pinch weld. Is that back corner AND pinch weld area?
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Looks like shes hitting right at the lower pinch weld area as outlined by this pic:
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11-01-2017, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
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Looks like shes hitting right at the lower pinch weld area as outlined by this pic:
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OK - wheel spacers will just make that worse. And to make you feel better I rubbed there too. It was better when I folded the seam flat - until I went wheeling. Then I rubbed when I stuffed it until I put on the 1" BL
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11-01-2017, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rkntoy
OK - wheel spacers will just make that worse. And to make you feel better I rubbed there too. It was better when I folded the seam flat - until I went wheeling. Then I rubbed when I stuffed it until I put on the 1" BL
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Interesting that some people rub with 33s while others don't. Did you also try the alignment settings mentioned earlier? Thanks.
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