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Old 03-16-2018, 12:17 AM #16
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Just picked them up. $460 for cooper stmaxx. Less then 8k miles. They still have the little nipples on the side walls.
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I'm not saying they aren't heavy, but I don't notice them being heavy or riding "harsh". For the first 20k miles, I ran my KO2's at 43PSI, and they were nowhere near what I would call harsh. I run them at 36PSI now, but not because I wanted a softer ride- I realized 43PSI is too much pressure for the weight of the runner, and would likely cause uneven wear.
The load range C 315/70R17 KO2 is the same exact weight as the load E, so you can't just go by the load rating when judging the weight of a tire.
I just got 18.24MPG on my last tank. With 315's and 4.10's, I'd say the weight of the tires isn't having much of a negative affect on anything at all.
Would lighter be better? Yeah, I guess. But having the weight down low is nice for COG too 🤷🏼*♂️
I mean I guess it’s subjective but I thought the 285s I had rode like shit. Running 30psi helped, but I still took them off. The SL rated 265s I replaced them with are significantly better in ride quality. They’re better in acceleration and braking but that’s largely impacted by the OD of the tire too. I’m not saying you shouldn’t run E range tires but if you have a choice between E and C/SL and you put a lot of highway miles on your rig, the C/SL tires are a better choice.
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I am running E rated KO'2s about 7 months a year. then switch to studded snows ( live on hills with lots of ice and snow)
I went with the E rated ko'2s because when the snow clears I do lots of forest service and other gravel roads.
To me they don't seem any harsher then what was on before I got e rated tires. could be just me and not really caring
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Well E rates it is. Have no choice lol. definitely a overkill. But hearing from you guys. I should be alright. The truck should be good. I don’t daily drive it. It’s basically now a weekend toy. I do take it on long trips. Because I love the luxury I have put into it. But other then that. It sits in the driveway now .


Is anyone concerned with fully armored 3rd gen. all the weight? The stress on the drivetrain and engine ? I’m going on a trip to VA in June.
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Who runs Load range E Tires ?

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...if you have a choice between E and C/SL and you put a lot of highway miles on your rig, the C/SL tires are a better choice.
Oh, I agree 100%. Well, I'm not sure why the highway miles thing, but I still agree. If the load C 315/70R17 KO2 had been out when I bought tires, I would have absolutely gotten the C. I wouldn't get a load E for a 4Runner if I had the choice.
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...could be just me and not really caring
Exactly. X2.
It's very subjective.
If the tire is stiffer, it probably deflects less when cornering too. For how much I enjoy driving, I may be disappointed if my sidewalls were deflecting more around corners.
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Those with load range e tires. How have your rear wheel bearings been holding up? Lately I’ve been having a lot of rear wheel bearing issue. Replacing them like socks. I don’t recall but I want to say after putting the load e tires. Currently going to be replacing both rear wheel bearings with everything OEM. And I’ll be really pissed if they go to shit.
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Heh, replacing them "like socks" sounds like either install issues or probkems with the axle housing itself.

As for MPG, I saw a ~4.3% increase in MPG on my wife's 5th gen when we saved 50lbs per corner by swapping in lighter wheels and tires than the silly dealer had installed. So, I wouldnt personally stress too much about it.

I run my e-rated tires at 40 PSI on the road, because I see a bit better mileage and a bit less road noise. However, at this pressure, they are very jittery on washboards, so I air down to 30 PSI when going offroad.
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Those with load range e tires. How have your rear wheel bearings been holding up? Lately I’ve been having a lot of rear wheel bearing issue. Replacing them like socks. I don’t recall but I want to say after putting the load e tires. Currently going to be replacing both rear wheel bearings with everything OEM. And I’ll be really pissed if they go to shit.
I've KO2s, Michelin at2s and duratrac wranglers in E load, still have original rear seals, going on 304K. Those 01/02s suck, eh?!
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I have ran the same tire for years and always used C load on my jeeps and the 4runner. My most recent new set of 265-75-16s turned out to be out of round so they replaced them with another set but only had E loads in stock. The service manager tried to convince me that they will ride the same and my experience was telling me no but I went ahead with it cuz I needed tires. He was totally wrong and it rode jarring like a HD pickup. I run em at 30 psi cold and it is decent but will never buy another E tire again.

I have no idea how anyone can run an E tire at 35+ psi.
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we saved 50lbs per corner by swapping in lighter wheels and tires than the silly dealer had installed.
50lbs per corner?! Dang. What was on there and what did you switch to?
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We run E rated tires on our van at around 80psi but its a 1 ton. The van just floats down the road but it also weighs 8000 pounds.

For those with E rated mud tires...how do they react aired down off road?

Is the 4runner heavy enough to make em flex over obstacles? They would be tough as nails but I wonder if you would actually loose traction 'cause they won't flex as well...
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50lbs per corner?! Dang. What was on there and what did you switch to?
Dealer had installed 20x10" wheels with 33" Treadwright MTs. I put on some aluminul 17x8s and C-rated 33" ATs, collectively saving 50lb per corner. It was noticably peppier, but I was surprised how little a difference it made in MPG. I went from averaging 23mpg to about 24mpg on the same commute.
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Do you guys think that my 04 4x4 sport could have the cv boots tear, inner tie rod boots tear and transmission start acting differently just by putting heavier tires on. Lt 265/70/17 E
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Are the BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2’s that good? Are they noisy on the pavement? Will they decrease gas mileage and use up more energy?

I have a 2013 Toyota 4Runner and need new tires. I have winter rims and tires and just want a tire good for towing 5,000 lbs and able to pull the trailer up out of sand, mud and gravel while being able to explore off road a bit.

Is the KO2 the tire for me or should I consider:

- Bridgestone Dueler AT REVO 3
- Pirelli Scorpion All Terrrain Plus
- Michelin A/T2
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[QUOTE=Jakeb84;3311531]Do you guys think that my 04 4x4 sport could have the cv boots tear, inner tie rod boots tear and transmission start acting differently just by putting heavier tires on. Lt 265/70/17 E[/QUOT
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