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Synthetic winch rope upgrade question
This past Sunday I was out wheeling with my buddy and had to winch him. I must of winched in to far and kinked my cable up. Time to upgrade to a synthetic line. I do have a warn winch. I was thinking the warn cable is the best for it. I need some recommendations on brand and size.
Let me know what you run and prices where you got them from would be great.
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04-03-2018, 09:38 PM
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Don't assume that brand name has anything to do with "best". Diameter, length and strength should be what you're considering. Amsteel is the brand for industry standard for applications like tug boats, etc.
Masterpull is the brand I prefer.
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Originally Posted by csp
Don't assume that brand name has anything to do with "best". Diameter, length and strength should be what you're considering. Amsteel is the brand for industry standard for applications like tug boats, etc.
Masterpull is the brand I prefer.
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Been trying to do some research to figure out diameter and length is the best for my winch.
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04-04-2018, 02:21 AM
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I replaced my wire cable on my M8000 with Masterpull Superline Synthetic Winch Line. I went with a 100 feet of 5/16th. The Masterpull "Superline" is a solid step up from their "Classic" line and is rated to 21,700 lbs.
If I were to buy again, I would still go with their superline. But, I would 3/8" and a shorter amount. I would get either 50 feet or maybe 75 feet. This gives you plenty of room to work with without crowding the spool as you are spooling in. Max capacity can be a tight fit, even when guiding it on. But it can be hard to manage the spool and clearance when you are busy doing other things. Then, I would just get an extension or two to allow for more reach. And as far as jumping up to 3/8", it's not that you really need that much more strength for most situations, but, 3/8" size line seems to be easier to find repair tools like the Factor 55 Fast Fid splicing tool. >> https://factor55.com/product/fast-fid-new/
With that set up, you could just grab whatever appropriate winch line extension and then you wouldn't have to spool out as much as if you had it all on the spool. Anyway.. That's what I would consider if I were to do it again.
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04-04-2018, 02:31 AM
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Pics for reference.
Master Pull Superline. 100 feet of 5/16".
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I too have been looking into switching to synthetic line, mainly to save a little weight and for the added safety. I jumped on a deal I found a couple months back on a Superwinch TS9500 steel cable. According to Superwinche's website, they only "recommend" steel cable for my winch, but that seems vague enough to assume that I might be ok switching to synthetic anyway? I've heard that switching to a synthetic line could lead to overheating issues. Can someone help me out here?
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I can't speak for your specific model winch, but basically it has to do with all the heat generated by internal brake. The heat generated, and where that brake is located, might transfer a lot of that heat to your synthetic line. Heat can degrade your synthetic line pretty quick. Synthetic line makers usually have an extra heat shield on the first level of wraps that are closest to the spool body. But that is the gist.
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04-04-2018, 03:42 PM
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I can't speak for your specific model winch, but basically it has to do with all the heat generated by internal brake. The heat generated, and where that brake is located, might transfer a lot of that heat to your synthetic line. Heat can degrade your synthetic line pretty quick. Synthetic line makers usually have an extra heat shield on the first level of wraps that are closest to the spool body. But that is the gist.
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My understanding is that drum heat buildup is only a factor during extended power out situations, such as easing a vehicle down a hill.
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