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Old 06-27-2018, 09:14 AM #31
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Very nice job, nice to see it done right. I'm really looking forward to seeing it run.

That is a LOT of sludge!!! Can't say I've ever seen anything quite that bad. Just a serious lack of proper oil changes cause that?
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GReat job, way to dive right in the deep end
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That is a LOT of sludge!!! Can't say I've ever seen anything quite that bad. Just a serious lack of proper oil changes cause that?
I have a theory with JDM motors that makes some kind of sense, to me at least.
I don't know the specifics on the laws in Japan for motors but FROM MY UNDERSTANDING the Kyoto Protocol essentially created the JDM engine market in America. Their regulations somehow make it easier to replace motors than fix, recertify and keep older ones... or something along those lines.
Y'all feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. This explains the hundreds of JDM motors you see for sale with <60k miles. This is great and all, and i have a JDM motor in my Bugaru, but it also begs a question of the people paying to ditch these motors near a quarter of their American life.

"Why do regularly scheduled maintenance on a motor that i know I'm going to yank out and replace before it needs spark plugs?"

Enter a motor with oil that could potentially be from the factory in the 4runner i bought. The unfinished JDM swap definitely came to a screeching halt at some point and judging by the loose valve cover bolts, i'd say it was the second they got a look at the heads.


Anywho, took a trip to CO in my wife's Nissan and while it did fantastically on the trails, i couldn't help but wish we were in my 4runner at the time. SOON!

some picks for the clicks from Cinnamon, Engineer and Ophir Passes



ALSO, and most importantly, I got the nest Pistons assembled and ringed and will be putting them in on Friday. ready to get this thing going now that my friend the shop owner and my own overlapping vacations are over.

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bottom end almost done, didn't realize i needed new main cap bolts and waiting on an OE oil pump and crank timing gear
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thanks for the great photos documenting this rebuild.. it sure adds to the time in getting things done..
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thanks for the great photos documenting this rebuild.. it sure adds to the time in getting things done..
i wish progress wasn't so slow but the shop where i'm rebuilding the motor is about 40 minutes away so i have limited myself to trips where i have the time to get a lot done. If its not buttoned up by the weekend i'll be spending saturday doing so and hopefully getting it to the house to move forward with the install.
Assuming the oil pump comes in
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awesome start to your build man!!

I don't live far from you in richardson and im about to do a lot of suspension work and VC replacement/timing belt. Do you ever go wheeling around here? Bridgeport or marble falls? ive never been but im wanting to go once everything is up to par.
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awesome start to your build man!!

I don't live far from you in richardson and im about to do a lot of suspension work and VC replacement/timing belt. Do you ever go wheeling around here? Bridgeport or marble falls? ive never been but im wanting to go once everything is up to par.
Oh nice! a local!
I have not been wheeling around here for 15 years or so when i was a punk kid and there were trails right off the highway everywhere. After our trip to CO in the Nissan i have the itch though and saw a few of those places around to hit so as soon as this thing is running i will probably be out there. I bought it with a partially completed/fully sludged swap so before even getting it running i decided to start over from scratch with the original 200+ motor rebuild. I work in Richardson so you're really close, lmk if you need any help wrenching

Sold my other project last night for a lot more than expected considering it wasn't quite complete.
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always something

well things were going pretty well last night until i had a hiccup.

Going to try to document the build a little better and not just with abstract shots but potentially helpful ones.
Got back to the shop yesterday afternoon and got the new main cap bolts(special ordered and backordered from Toyota) in and torqued. didn't realize until way late that they were one-time bolts like the heads.



Got those and the rod caps torqued + the extra 90 degrees it asks for.

Up next would be the heads. So i slapped the new head gaskets on and pulled one of the heads out of the garbage bag its been living in and got to it.
Note: went with later 3.4L metal headgaskets to avoid the potential of failure that the early gaskets are known for.


Note: set the motor to TDC now because its easier than it will be later

The heads are assembled from the machine shop doing the valve job and its a little annoying to pull the cams in order to put the heads on when they look so fresh. Thanks Toyota for putting the head bolts below the cams



don't mind the messy workspace, i have limited space in my friend's shop and it drives me crazy too.
Doing one head at a time for that reason.

When preparing to start torquing headbolts, i realized the new ones were a little weird. I'll add a photo here later, but the factory were a 12 point 13mm i think and that was too big for these. Tried a 12mm, no dice. 1/2" was the only thing that fit and i realized they were made in America, so makes some kind of sense. That's fine and i'm all for it, but the 1/2" wasn't exactly snug. Decided to start despite that, but i was worried that i'd have issues once the bolts got tighter. Told my buddy the shop owner and he mentioned the bolts won't strip easily and just to see how it goes. So i went for it and the torque sequence was going well until i got to round 3.

for anyone who hasn't done them, it goes:
-25 Ft lbs
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-90 degrees

Well i made it all the way through round 1 and 2.
Then 3 bolts into the 3rd round, the socket jumped. checked it, the bolt wasn't chewed up he said the try again, jumped again. The bolt held up just fine but the rounded edges were just jumping across because the socket didn't get enough bite.
So now i have a bolt that is like 45 degrees from being fully torqued and kind of stuck. tried a couple other sockets but no luck so far so i'm going to be searching for a 1/2" socket with better bite and if i can't find that, I'll be finding new head bolts and starting over.

Incase you're wondering, the head bolt company is DNJ. wish me luck on finding a better socket and not starting over with new bolts.



to be continued...
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good looking build so far!
Let me know if you need a hand, I'm just in Addison.
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to be continued...
First, I don't know why I had never seen/noticed the bottom end of a 5vz... the siamesed main caps are awesome. Now I can see why the 5vz can be built for serious power if desired. For the rest of us, that just means awesome reliability.

My first thought is that there is something special for the drive, like a triple-square vs. dual hex that might be screwing you up on those head bolts. I have never seen anyone have a problem with a standard 12-point. Hmmm... (I did have to buy a special spark plug socket for my wife's old Mini, so it does happen, I guess)

The threads in the block are metric, it would be weird for the bolt manufacturer to go with an SAE head.

Good luck figuring it out!

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Sorry, on my phone and can’t figure out how to get the right url on flickr mobile but this is in case you guys thought i was crazy.

This is a weird replacement bolt vs original comparison


Tried a socket that gripped better, still no luck, ordered new bolts and picking up soon to try and get the motor complete today

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Be wary of important bolts if they look different from what you pull off. Glad i got this situated but what a pain

Had to extract the torqued bolts



But really made some progress after i got them out. Made sure to mark the headbolts after torqued to 25ft lbs in order to assure the proper angle on the last 2 steps.


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Few more gaskets and the new tbelt kit and we should be ready to bring er home to swap in.
One weird thing was the set screw for the left bank exhaust cam’s placement. At tdc, the screw is straight down and completely inaccessible. While you have a little room to turn before moving the only valves with a piston up, there isnt enough to get it out so we have to wait until the new timing belt is on, turn the entire engine over together far enough to pull the bolt out and then we can seal that head up. Joelzy's 96 5SPD(daily) & 5VZ block-up rebuild

Note: Some of the cheaper oil pumps come with the pickup gasket and block o-ring but the Aisin does not so back to the dealer we go.

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Looking to put in a bunch of work tomorrow.
Been cleaning parts as best as i can


For anyone interested, i’ll probably be into the rebuild for about $1500 said and done. That is all machine work, every new part(pumps and whatnot), gaskets/seals and a second-hand hoist. Not bad considering i plan to drive this thing to 250-300K



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