Does anyone know if SS will still sell the DIY kit for $500? As mentioned earlier it is no longer on the website. I will call Monday (2-17-20) to find out, but if anyone has info over the weekend please reply here.

I think Steve will still sell you the adapters. The Toyota parts you can always just order as OEM.

I spoke to Steve... he doesn’t sell the DIY kit any more, but he said that customers can still order any or all of the parts from the original kit individually from the website.

Thanks for this. My 4runner came with the 3" rough country lift and i'd like to get that off and switch to something better. I think I might go with the LC shocks and LC or 861 springs and then Kings in the front. Right now my 4 runner is pretty stock but I plan on getting a roof top tent and bumpers. So I think this rear spring and shock combo should be good with that stuff along with other gear.

great timing on this thread for me. this is the set up I have been looking at...might actually save a few bucks on it now thanks to this write up

What does Steve recommend for trucks that are armored and weighted?

Be advised that Sonoran Steel no longer sells the piece it together/build it yourself kit on their website. Not sure if you call if they will sell it or not. If you want to buy the whole thing from them it's the Classic System 1.2 1996-2002 - Classic System 1.2 [96-02_complete] - $1,575.15 : Sonoran Steel Fabrication LLC, Toyota Truck Parts

TRD Tundra Springs and tundra bilstein 5100's for the front and FJ80 Landcruiser front springs in the rear with FJ80 rear shocks.

so how come the write up above and even the website run bilstien up front and toyota shocks on back. Noticed the website says can upgrade to billies on back. Is it just a money factor ?

From my understanding the Tokico Landcruiser shocks work really well with the FJ80 springs. The valving and collapsed/extended lengths match the landcruiser spring rate and free coil length pretty good. They're also cheaper FWIW

I'm not sure about upgrade but 5100 rears are optional because he recommends in his install instructions that to get the most benefit from tokicos you have to widen the upper shock mount hole due the larger retaining cup. If the tokicos are installed without widening, it can wallow it out. The 5100 (bil 33-187174) are optional for those that don't want to drill out the mounting hole.

Bilstein 33-187174 are rear shocks for 4th Gen 4Runner/FJ Cruiser in case anyone stumbles across this.

thanks a lot. which is the better shock, If im into it that far drilling out a hole is nothing...but if the toyota shock is better than I need to know b4 I start this project.
then again ....which is not only the best shock...but which lasts the longest etc. would not want to drill out the hole the after I blow a shock or they wear out...which si gonna be the best replacement. Drilling it out...does it lock me to that shock in the future cause other wont fit ?

It was several years ago that I talked to him about his lift kit but at the time he seemed to favor the tokicos over the bilsteins & for longevity I'd imagine the tokicos. His instructions say that you don't have to drill out the mounting hole & if you don't to not use the middle retaining washer but you may not get the full performance of the shocks. If you do drill out the mounting hole I think you would be limited to those shocks or any other shock that uses the same size retaining washer which I'm not sure what shocks that would include. He would be a better source to get specific info from. He's always been really quick to respond to emails & get a hold of by phone. He's pretty particular & opinionated about the way he has his lift kits specifically set up but very informative. He responded within minutes on a weekend when I ran into some issues installing his washer relocation kit several years ago and was extremely helpful.

Also, the Bilstein 33-187174 he sells already has the bottom mount bushings replaced to fit our 3rd gens. If you get those 5100s anywhere else be sure to get the 3rd gen lower mount bushings bc the bushings that originally come with it won't fit. I don't have experience with the tokicos but I have the bilsteins from him and like the way they ride...with the understanding that ride quality is very subjective.

If you want what Sonoran steel sells then buy from them. You would have to go used and build some yourself to save anything.

Price it out yourself.

$400 TRD coils or used $???
$20 coil isolators
$220 tundra 5100’s
$80 if you need top hats.
$40 brake line
$160-200 rear bumps or build for $40
$200 panhard bar
$180 rear 5100 or $80 tokicos
$180 rear springs, or $80 used 7.5 wraps
$60 sway bar relocation
$50 diff drop
$30 brake cable bracket