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So, if E90 and F32 seats can me made to fit without much effort, that seems to indicate that aftermarket options for those become viable as well. Interesting...
I prefer manual over power seats, and that's why I went with Corbeau in my 3rd gen. Total shipped price for a pair (Moab), with double locking sliders, $728. Sold my OEM seats for $400, so $328 bucks for brand new seats.
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02-18-2019, 01:41 AM
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I'm the OP of that Reddit post, just came across this post looking for something else lol did you get the seats to prevent them from going on sleep mode?
I have now upgraded to f32 seats and gave my f30 seats to my friend with a 1st Gen Tacoma (yes, they'll fit a Tacoma). I also made my own rear brackets to set the seat a little bit lower.
The f32 seats have full lumbar support and you can adjust the sides so you don't move around when off-roading.
I have gathered e46 and e90 seats and possibly getting Volvo seats for testing and fitting to make a universal bolt-on bracket, I just had been really busy with work that I haven't had time.
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02-24-2019, 04:21 PM
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I'm the OP of that Reddit post, just came across this post looking for something else lol did you get the seats to prevent them from going on sleep mode?
I have now upgraded to f32 seats and gave my f30 seats to my friend with a 1st Gen Tacoma (yes, they'll fit a Tacoma). I also made my own rear brackets to set the seat a little bit lower.
The f32 seats have full lumbar support and you can adjust the sides so you don't move around when off-roading.
I have gathered e46 and e90 seats and possibly getting Volvo seats for testing and fitting to make a universal bolt-on bracket, I just had been really busy with work that I haven't had time.
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Oh, hey - didn't know you were on here or I would have private messaged you with questions before I dived in. I haven't had a chance to get it set up in the truck permanently, but supplying 5V as I mentioned above keeps the seat from going into sleep mode for the several hours I tried it. Like you, work's been keeping me from getting around to getting the permanent setup installed.
The E90 and later 3-series seats with the flat rails seem to be pretty universal conversion seats for a bunch of different vehicles. The E90 Sport power seats I have also have the width adjustment you mentioned, so I would guess that'd been an option on some F30 seats as well.
Do keep in touch and let me know what you find out about Volvo seats - I have a friend who would like to use Volvo seats in his rig but neither of us have had the time to dig into the options and what would be required to put them in. If I can be of any assistance in your further seat conversion work, let me know.
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02-24-2019, 04:23 PM
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So, if E90 and F32 seats can me made to fit without much effort, that seems to indicate that aftermarket options for those become viable as well. Interesting...
I prefer manual over power seats, and that's why I went with Corbeau in my 3rd gen. Total shipped price for a pair (Moab), with double locking sliders, $728. Sold my OEM seats for $400, so $328 bucks for brand new seats.
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As the other poster mentioned, he got F30 seats to work too. Also, at least on the E90, there are manual versions of these sport seats as well.
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02-24-2019, 05:41 PM
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When you guys say E90, are you talking E90-E93 or ONLY E90?
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02-24-2019, 09:32 PM
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When you guys say E90, are you talking E90-E93 or ONLY E90?
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E90 (sedan) seats and E91 (wagon) seats are the same as each other and are your best option. The E92 (coupe) seats are slightly less optimal in some ways as the inside rail (right side for driver seat, left side for passenger) is a couple inches longer, but that's not a problem if you weld on the stock Toyota legs as the center console extends back further anyway. On the other hand, the E92 seats have that manual seatback release on the shoulder which can help with camping or cargo carriage. Otherwise, they'll work just fine. The seats I installed in my 4Runner in this thread are out of an E92.
The only E90-series seats that won't really work are the E93 seats (convertible/cabriolet) as they are significantly different and have integrated seat belts (among other issues). I forget the other issues with the E93 seats that made them a bad choice, but I think one was differences in the rails. E93 seats are very hard to find in any condition in my area and the E93 didn't sell that well to begin with, so on top of what my research indicated, I didn't bother with finding a set to physically compare.
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02-25-2019, 06:41 AM
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E90 (sedan) seats and E91 (wagon) seats are the same as each other and are your best option. The E92 (coupe) seats are slightly less optimal in some ways as the inside rail (right side for driver seat, left side for passenger) is a couple inches longer, but that's not a problem if you weld on the stock Toyota legs as the center console extends back further anyway. On the other hand, the E92 seats have that manual seatback release on the shoulder which can help with camping or cargo carriage. Otherwise, they'll work just fine. The seats I installed in my 4Runner in this thread are out of an E92.
The only E90-series seats that won't really work are the E93 seats (convertible/cabriolet) as they are significantly different and have integrated seat belts (among other issues). I forget the other issues with the E93 seats that made them a bad choice, but I think one was differences in the rails. E93 seats are very hard to find in any condition in my area and the E93 didn't sell that well to begin with, so on top of what my research indicated, I didn't bother with finding a set to physically compare.
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Thanks for breaking it down like that. I had to go to wikipedia just to figure out what all the different E9x models are.
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02-25-2019, 03:21 PM
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BMW aficionados, Is there a full-manual version of these seats? Thinking of it being lighter?
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BMW aficionados, Is there a full-manual version of these seats? Thinking of it being lighter?
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It won't be significantly lighter as all E90s had airbags in the seats and the frame had to be sturdily (read: heavily) built to support them. Also, this, as with power windows, was the era where power seats started to become lighter than manual as the motors and such were lighter than the manual rack/gears/linkages.
That said, yes, there were manual sport seats but the adjustable side bolsters on the back are electric on all sport versions, power or manual. The 'manual' seats just have all the other adjustments manual except the bolsters.
One disadvantage of the manual seats - many of them have NO lumbar adjustment at all. If they do have lumbar adjustment, that is also powered. The power ones also had optional lumbar adjustment but it is far more common for them to have it. Below is a non-heated, non-lumbar manual E90 seat.
Bottom line is that more modern vehicle seats are pretty much all going to be some degree of "heavy", even the manual ones, due to seat mounted airbags' required support and engineering measures - so why not fit the power ones anyway?
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It won't be significantly lighter as all E90s had airbags in the seats and the frame had to be sturdily (read: heavily) built to support them. Also, this, as with power windows, was the era where power seats started to become lighter than manual as the motors and such were lighter than the manual rack/gears/linkages.
That said, yes, there were manual sport seats but the adjustable side bolsters on the back are electric on all sport versions, power or manual. The 'manual' seats just have all the other adjustments manual except the bolsters.
One disadvantage of the manual seats - many of them have NO lumbar adjustment at all. If they do have lumbar adjustment, that is also powered. The power ones also had optional lumbar adjustment but it is far more common for them to have it. Below is a non-heated, non-lumbar manual E90 seat.
Bottom line is that more modern vehicle seats are pretty much all going to be some degree of "heavy", even the manual ones, due to seat mounted airbags' required support and engineering measures - so why not fit the power ones anyway?
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Great info and thanks for the post. These certainly look nice in the cockpit of the 3rd Gen and are another good seat swap option.
...now I'm curious of the approx weight of these (full power version) vs. the stockers.
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Oh, hey - didn't know you were on here or I would have private messaged you with questions before I dived in. I haven't had a chance to get it set up in the truck permanently, but supplying 5V as I mentioned above keeps the seat from going into sleep mode for the several hours I tried it. Like you, work's been keeping me from getting around to getting the permanent setup installed.
The E90 and later 3-series seats with the flat rails seem to be pretty universal conversion seats for a bunch of different vehicles. The E90 Sport power seats I have also have the width adjustment you mentioned, so I would guess that'd been an option on some F30 seats as well.
Do keep in touch and let me know what you find out about Volvo seats - I have a friend who would like to use Volvo seats in his rig but neither of us have had the time to dig into the options and what would be required to put them in. If I can be of any assistance in your further seat conversion work, let me know.
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That's awesome that you got it to work properly! I tried to supply 5v to a couple of wires I have left from the main plug and my seat still goes into sleep mode. There's this one wire that after you provide 12v for just a second it will bring the seat back from sleep mode, I was hoping that would be the wire that needed 5v. I'm going to have to pull some f32 wiring diagrams and tinker with it.
Thanks for offering your help! I'll definitely message you if I have any questions.
I've seen a couple of guys fitting Volvo seats and the cool thing is that you can fold them flat. I gotta wait until the next holiday sale at the junkyard and get some Volvo seats to experiment with.
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Will seats from a e92 (coupe) fit as well? I’m assuming so....
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Will seats from a e92 (coupe) fit as well? I’m assuming so....
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You may want to re-read the thread because right in my first post I point out that I was using E92 seats. And again a few posts up, I specifically mention the seats in the truck are E92 seats...
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You may want to re-read the thread because right in my first post I point out that I was using E92 seats. And again a few posts up, I specifically mention the seats in the truck are E92 seats...
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I’ve been drooling over this thread for the last few weeks! Can you confirm is these are the correct seats? I’m about to pull the trigger! E90 sedan Sport seats - Auto Parts - East Windsor, Connecticut - Marketplace | Facebook
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