Doesn't matter. TV seemed to have a hardon for Harley riders. All bike riders
have loud pipes mostly because of the DA's on the road that don't see us.
Loud pipes saves lives you ever hear that it's true. Folks playin with themselves or on their phone.
Almost been run over and killed a bunch of times on a Harley the last 30 yr.
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Go Jefferson State ! But your right , won't happen . I used to live in southern Oregon.

There may be some slight truth to the fact that louder exhausts make bikes safer, but at the end of the day, that is not why harley riders want them. They want them because its part of the self image that harley rirder want to convey about being outlaws and some sort of bad ass. Lets be honest, if harleys were quiet and tame, most of the riders would find them very appealing.

This! Seriously folks ... Read this!

The whole scare is a big nothing to see here. CA bashing gives laughs I get it but stop panicking lol.

BTW how many people here have a 3rd gen that ACTUALLY produces 95 db at 5-10 feet away? I'm willing to bet it's extremely rare, and if you are above 95 db that you know it isn't legit because in most cities across America that is so damned loud that you would be pulled over anyways .... and we all know this!

For reference a 9/11 GTS at 7,000 RPM on the track just BARELY exceeds 95db. Most stock supercars do not exceed this level. Some do yes but most don't.

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1. I'm a motorcycle rider and I don't have loud pipes, because:
2. Most recent cars have good enough sound insulation that you can't hear loud exhausts without rolling down the windows - so all those loud pipes do is annoy the local residents and drive people away from motorcycling. To demonstrate how good modern sound insulation is, my friend and I took his 2014 Hyundai Genesis to Rick Fairless' Strokers - a famous Harley customizer and bar here in Dallas with hordes of loud piped bikes. We found the loudest straight pipe with megaphone resonator (to make it even louder) Harley and had its owner rev it up in the parking lot. We could not hear the bike inside the car from a distance of 30 feet. And that's just a $35K modern car. Guess how good something like a Mercedes S-class is.
3. Even *if* loud pipes alerted people to your presence, due to actual physics mostly the people behind you (who already see you) will be the ones hearing you. It's the people to the front and forward/sides (9:30-2:30 if using a 'clock' bearing) you need to alert to your presence and loud pipes won't do that - not without being loud enough to deafen the rider, which brings me to:
4. If your pipes are that loud, you can't hear other traffic or problems with your bike, both of which can be fatal. I can't count the number of crashes I've avoided by simply being able to hear other vehicles while being unable to see them.

Here is a large motorcycle accessory seller with their input on the subject:
Stop saying "loud pipes save lives" - RevZilla

More info:
Why Loud Pipes Don’t Save Lives

Loud pipes do not save lives. They just annoy people and deafen the rider. Oh, and attract cops by giving them probable cause to pull you over - cop cars can optionally come with decibel meters now.

Edit: I don't know where you're at, but here in Dallas, loud exhausts are definitely in the minority on two wheeled vehicles these days. Harleys and *some* sportbikers, that's about it. Far more common to see/hear stock, quiet exhausts.

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I've been to SoCal like, maybe 5 times in my life? Yeah, also not a fan. Much more open space up here and oh, we have trees. They seem to be lacking down there in the mountains.

A lot of these "laws" are not enforced very strictly. Having a heavily modified engine & exhaust system in my 4Runner now, it still passes smog. Just gotta know how to play by the rules. The one big one though is don't touch any exhaust piping upstream of the last cat (except for CARB approved headers). As long as you don't do that you're golden.

Yes! And don't exceed 95db. But again who is actually doing that with a 3rd gen? These changes are much ado about nothing.

You know what they say about visiting 5 times?

"you've only visited 5 times"

3 of those trips was for Disneyland as a kid

If you think the '80's were bad growing up in the 70's was even worse. Grew up in Orange County and during the summer there were many days I couldn't see the hills that were just 2 miles from my house. They've done a great job of cleaning that up for sure.

I've lived here for 30 years, came from NYC as a kid. I've got to say, sometimes CA can be very heavy handed. But regarding SMOG, CA found a way to clean it up which benefits the rest of the country. I love when folks say how much they enjoy living in the mountains or having clean air to breathe, I do too, but they forget that they can do that because the cars they drive are now cleaner.

Also, CA is occasionally reasonable, I was surprised on my last series of SMOG checks to find that any car 2000 or newer no longer needs a gas sniffing, but they just plug into your OBD, confirm there are no errors, check to be sure there is nothing obviously bad, then they pass you. So no more extra time wasted on measuring NOx or other gases. It's like a 4 min process now. Also, unlike other states we don't require inspection stickers (which I would HATE!).

That said, I despise loud mufflers. 1) they tend to be on cars that aren't very fast--all show, no go. 2) they tend to be tuned completely wrong and have the wrong sound (like coffee can civics) 3) a lot of them just drone on the freeway and it's frustrating to be next to them 4) some have a deep V8 burble, but are coming out of a V6! 5) Also many high flow mufflers reduce torque ratings, no thanks.

I have one neighbor about 4 blocks down on a Harley with a straight pipe, he purposely WOT when he drives down our blocks and he LIVES in the neighborhood. Does it pretty much everyday. I hope this law gets him. IF he was courteous and didn't WOT, that'd be different (I know a lot of people that tone it down when they are in neighborhoods, so that's fine).

I'm not sure if you can get something louder if it's CARB legal, I was hearing about cops pulling over mustangs off the lot and hitting them with the $1000 fine. I'd be ****ed if I moved back right now since I have an exhaust leak that's basically straight piped after the cats. Though I found out I "meet" CA emissions having 2 cats which I thought was weird, given my 3rd gen started life on the east coast.

11 states, mainly Eastern ones, among them my own NJ, also adopted the Cali 2-Cat standard in '99 and '00 before it went Federal in 2001.