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Old 02-15-2019, 02:17 PM #16
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+1 on the SPC's being your issue, for 1 they are meant for a lifted truck and then you really are gonna have to find a atleast a 4x4 oriented shop better yet a toyota specialty shop.

No one could get my 3" lift with SPC's aligned properly until I did so and they got it perfect! The arms confuse a tech who aligns stock cars all day.
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It might be worth talking to Valley Hybrids in Stockton. Don't be fooled by their name, they do lots of Land Cruiser work. They might be able to help you find a place that do your alignment properly.
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I'm willing to bet that the UCAs are the problem. Most of them aren't meant to be used on a stock vehicle.
I would agree if I hadnít had even worse positive camber with stock uppers on. Iíll get photos today hopefully and upload later here. Iíll also grab some measurements.

Through swapping the coil overs and struts, the truck ended up with nearly an inch or so more clearance on the front (looks like it was lifted). I suspect my front coilovers were just so blown out thatís why it looks nearly lifted without any actual lift installed.
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It might be worth talking to Valley Hybrids in Stockton. Don't be fooled by their name, they do lots of Land Cruiser work. They might be able to help you find a place that do your alignment properly.
Appreciate that!!! Iíll check them out. Iím going to 4wheel parts off 880 to get their take and have them align it. I called ahead and theyíre used to working with adjustable upper arms, so Iím hopeful they can get me pointed in the right direction.
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Fremont Alignment is my go to place that quickly fixed what another shop screwed up and said was impossible. Not sure how they do with modded trucks but give them a ring.
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I missed the adjustable uppers but they should have a close to stock setting if not lifted...if they are the SPC they should have a diagram on where to put it to keep it close.
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Iím equally confused. There is no lift on the vehicle yet serious alignment issues. I have adjustable control arms up top so at this point Iím not sure if the alignment shop is just garbage and really shitty at their job, could be the case, or Iíve got fear damage pushing my alignment so out of whack no shop can fix it. Thing is, Iíve only ever had tiny fender benders that barely dented the front bumper.

This is my third alignment shop thatís basically jut not able to get it to 0 camber, 0 toe, 3 degrees of caster like I asked. Obviously Iím not the tech and am just going off what Iíve been told.


At this point, I am considering taking it to a Toyota dealer, or just throwing $300 at a 4 Wheel Parts store near by for a custom alignment to get it to the right specs as I just donít believe Iím all the way out of adjustments and cannot get to zero.
My bad. I assumed the truck was lifted somehow. I just don't understand how people can make 32s fit under a stock vehicle. Well, the only thing left then is incompetence. They did change the specs too. Probably to deceive you. Run from that shop.
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OP some good advice being offered here! But I have to agree that NO QUALIFIED TECH should worried about camber affecting toe. Although the toe will change when camber is moved, camber is not affected by adjusting toe(unless you had to move it 5 inches).
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I agree that this alignment shop is not great. The shop doing the actual labor of replacing parts agrees the alignment shops word seems wrong. Iím going to try 4wheel parts in Oakland out on Monday. Alignment there will set me back $300 but they at least are used to working on 4x4s and trucks with modifications.

Iím hopeful they can get me squared away. Itís damn near impossible to find a trustworthy alignment shop out here.
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My bad. I assumed the truck was lifted somehow. I just don't understand how people can make 32s fit under a stock vehicle. Well, the only thing left then is incompetence. They did change the specs too. Probably to deceive you. Run from that shop.
Agreed Iím running the hell away. Truck actually does sit higher than a normal 99 would stock, but not by much and is mostly due to the 32s.

Im hopeful the dedicated 4x4 place will get my rig squared away but at this point Iím not confident in any place.
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Update: no more issues

Finally got the truck into a dedicated 4x4 shop and they got it aligned perfectly. Truck drives like brand new and tracks straight as an arrow. Iíll post the sheet later needless to say Iím thrilled to have a truck that drives normally again.
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That's great to hear, sad that it took several tries to get it right...are the specs the same left and right, lol!!
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That's great to hear, sad that it took several tries to get it right...are the specs the same left and right, lol!!
Yup, camber and toe look identical, .2 degrees difference in caster. One of the shops even offered to give my money back after a negative review
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