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Old 06-24-2019, 01:52 PM #31
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Any chance of a shorter manual transmission replacement radiator?
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And this would interest the auto guys too who have bypassed (or plan to) the factory radiator, so I imagine demand might make it worthwhile...
We sent these posts along to Koyo. We will see what they say!
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We sent these posts along to Koyo. We will see what they say!
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Funny how they don't make a dedicated MT radiator for their OE replacement line, but for this aluminum variation they decided to make it MT only. Who is the genius behind these decisions. May still be interested anyway.

It's a toss up. Champion - built in cooler, but was designed on a jig made from legos. Koyo - transmission will take forever to warm up in winter, but damn is it pretty.

you should be bypassing the cooler on the radiator all together to completely eliminate the chance for pink milkshake. i cant believe more 3rd gen owners dont do this. a lot see the value of preventative maintenance, but skip right over bypassing the cooler in the radiator; blows my mind.

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what is the warranty on this radiator? its pretty pricey for what it is, although i do see the value and we all know aluminum isnt cheap. the champion has a lifetime warranty although i think i recall seeing some have issues with installation.

if the koyo has a lifetime warranty and installs/fits better than the champion, i think we have a winner here.
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Would anyone be interested in a complete kit?

Rad + Cap + Transmission Oil Cooler (With an optional thrmostat for those in cold climates)

We can spec it out so you dont have to!
I'm curious. I have a transmission cooler, but is the Koyo one better?
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you should be bypassing the cooler on the radiator all together to completely eliminate the chance for pink milkshake. i cant believe more 3rd gen owners dont do this. a lot see the value of preventative maintenance, but skip right over bypassing the cooler in the radiator; blows my mind.



what is the warranty on this radiator? its pretty pricey for what it is, although i do see the value and we all know aluminum isnt cheap. the champion has a lifetime warranty although i think i recall seeing some have issues with installation.

if the koyo has a lifetime warranty and installs/fits better than the champion, i think we have a winner here.

Agreed on preventing the pink milkshake!

Also curious about the warranty
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I'm bypassed with a 20,500 BTU cooler, but I admit that the pink milkshake was not the diving force for me to do so. I had just installed a new radiator at the time also. The pink milkshake is seemingly not really that common occurrence...

At the moment, I'm working on an aux fan install for the tranny cooler. I have not needed it the past year or so, but there will be times or scenarios where it should come in handy.
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The pink milkshake is seemingly not really that common occurrence...
i read this constantly, and i understand it to be true, but every time i read this statement (which is a lot), i think how silly it is for folk to brush off the trans coolers. its 100 dollars and 4 hours for increased piece of mind.

what do used trans go for 500-700? I see new/refurb ones are 2k+ via a quick google search.

100 dollars is a drop in the bucket for what ive spent on my rig already.

an aux fan would be cool, although it doesnt get that hot in the bay. are you doing it for traffic?
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i read this constantly, and i understand it to be true, but every time i read this statement (which is a lot), i think how silly it is for folk to brush off the trans coolers. its 100 dollars and 4 hours for increased piece of mind.
Why bother? I monitor my temps, change my fluids more often than strictly necessary. And I'd never bypass the radiator anyway, I'd like the ATF to come UP to temp in the winter if I ever make it home (Rockies).

It's another failure point, the extra hoses, connections and where those are routed. Is there an overall benefit for those who routinely get their transmissions hot? Yup. Is that true for daily drivers who do little more than a gravel driveway now and again? Nope.

I don't do "mods" that offer no real benefits. I don't have "hood struts" (and never will), no LED anything, I *might* have a 1/2" lift, mostly because I was tired of taking the struts apart to move the clip. You won't catch me with a plate bumper, winch, oversized tires, etc.... they simply offer nothing for how I use the vehicle. And a trans cooler fits in there.

I know, you clearly have a hard-on for the things, you've posted that enough. But how many of these 4runners (and other Toyotas with the same configuration, heck Most automatic trans cars have this setup) go for hundreds of thousands of miles without any issue in 100% stock form. Someone replaces the radiator even Once, and the coolant every 100k miles with a timing belt, and it's going to be junked before there's a trans issue from overheating. Lots of ways to skin a cat, yours is just... well, yours.
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Why bother? I monitor my temps, change my fluids more often than strictly necessary. And I'd never bypass the radiator anyway, I'd like the ATF to come UP to temp in the winter if I ever make it home (Rockies).

It's another failure point, the extra hoses, connections and where those are routed. Is there an overall benefit for those who routinely get their transmissions hot? Yup. Is that true for daily drivers who do little more than a gravel driveway now and again? Nope.

I don't do "mods" that offer no real benefits. I don't have "hood struts" (and never will), no LED anything, I *might* have a 1/2" lift, mostly because I was tired of taking the struts apart to move the clip. You won't catch me with a plate bumper, winch, oversized tires, etc.... they simply offer nothing for how I use the vehicle. And a trans cooler fits in there.

I know, you clearly have a hard-on for the things, you've posted that enough. But how many of these 4runners (and other Toyotas with the same configuration, heck Most automatic trans cars have this setup) go for hundreds of thousands of miles without any issue in 100% stock form. Someone replaces the radiator even Once, and the coolant every 100k miles with a timing belt, and it's going to be junked before there's a trans issue from overheating. Lots of ways to skin a cat, yours is just... well, yours.
i bother because it eliminates pink milkshake all together. simply that. its extra insurance.

you arent introducing anyore failure points than you already have with the OEM setup. its the same exact amount of fittings (think about it). if anything i would argue the line i have are better than OEM (nice upgraded goodyear hose). i live where it snows and my trans has no issues heating up the cooler.

i dont have hood struts or led anything. so nice try. although i see a merit to LEDs. not so much hood struts. if you dont think tires are an upgrade, well then im sorry you feel that way but i disagree.

i look at this as a controllable variable. there are things in your life that you can and cannot control. this you have full control and prevention over.

you seem like a really fun person.
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Do we have any more feedback or experience from people who've installed the Koyo Aluminum rad?! Would be great to hear some feedback!
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Thank god I saw this. Didn’t realize it was for manual.
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Glad I saw this thread, I knew it was here I saw it weeks or months ago. I plan to go Koyo at the moment because I am hoping its a better quality product than the Denso unit I put in a couple years ago based on what I use my 4runner for.

I use my 4runner for desert and higher speed trail type stuff where there are whoops, and just overall bumpy roads. I feel like the Koyo unit might hold up to that a little better, I will also be using one of their oil coolers for a trans cooler because I do not want pink milkshake.

Cooling problems are one of the things I have grown to hate and one of the things I am always on the look out to try to prevent, I am curious how the Auto trans will react but then I think I am not drag racing or anything so I feel like the few miles or what ever it takes to get the trans up to temp doesn't really seem like an issue since I will rarely if ever be in snow. Friction creates heat and I suspect it will only take slightly longer to heat up vs circulating through the stock style radiator trans cooler. Plus I plan to mount right in front of the radiator so there will be some conduction (I think that's the word) heating anyways.

Also, on top of that every trophy truck or any performance vehicle I know of that uses and automatic transmission does not have a radiator trans cooler combo so ill take the "risk" I guess
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