Home Menu

Site Navigation


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-22-2019, 02:16 PM #1
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
Not seeing coolant circulate in the radiator...

I installed new water pump, thermostat, timing belt etc, the original radiator was crumbling so just installed a new rad with new hoses, everything Toyota parts.

Had flushed the coolant numerous times lastly with distilled water. Filled with new Toyota red. Had the 4r on an incline to burp the system and I did not see the fluid circulating, had heaters open and idling for 15 minutes, water temp gauge is where it always is, below halfway. When I squeezed the upper hose coolant flows out the top of the rad, no bubbles.

After 15 minutes the coolant finally got lukewarm but I never did see coolant circulation, although about once a minute I would see one small bubble pop on the surface of the radiator neck. Did an errand, drove 25 minutes total not all at once, eyes on the temp gauge.

Back on the incline, cap off, the upper hose is hot, coolant is hot, but I still do not see circulation. No pressure hiss when I carefully removed the cap with a rag.

Shouldn't I be able to see active circulation?
Capnemo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2019, 02:38 PM #2
JAXJeremy's Avatar
JAXJeremy JAXJeremy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 662
Real Name: Jeremy
JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about
JAXJeremy JAXJeremy is offline
Member
JAXJeremy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 662
Real Name: Jeremy
JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about
did you install the t-stat backwards?
__________________
'18 SR5 4WD, magnetic gray metallic, stock, RCI front skid, LFD cross bars, Pedal Commander, Accessorides Remote Start.
JAXJeremy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2019, 02:53 PM #3
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
I doubt it but supposed there is a possibility. I was watching the Tim's Youtube on the iPad as I went, I confirmed the jiggle valve was at 6 o'clock and remember thinking about which way it should go in.

Doesn't mean I didn't but....

I should see movement correct?

Last edited by Capnemo; 05-22-2019 at 03:04 PM.
Capnemo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2019, 03:00 PM #4
JAXJeremy's Avatar
JAXJeremy JAXJeremy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 662
Real Name: Jeremy
JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about
JAXJeremy JAXJeremy is offline
Member
JAXJeremy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 662
Real Name: Jeremy
JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about
you may or may not see movement..sometimes it's hard to tell..I say if you've gotten all the air out of the system, the hoses are hot and the temp gauge is right, call it a day.
__________________
'18 SR5 4WD, magnetic gray metallic, stock, RCI front skid, LFD cross bars, Pedal Commander, Accessorides Remote Start.
JAXJeremy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2019, 03:07 PM #5
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAXJeremy View Post
you may or may not see movement..sometimes it's hard to tell..I say if you've gotten all the air out of the system, the hoses are hot and the temp gauge is right, call it a day.

It's a cool day, 62F, if not seeing fluid circulate is sometimes normal then great, but I would like to know now if there might be a problem. I guess my coolant gauge will let me know?

Can one see the jiggle valve from the backside of the thermostat? I definitely was
looking at the jiggle valve and orienting it as exactly at 6 O'clock as I could so if it is not really visible on the reverse side then the thermostat is inserted right way around. But maybe there is a a corresponding hand of the jiggle valve on the backside?
Capnemo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-22-2019, 03:44 PM #6
JAXJeremy's Avatar
JAXJeremy JAXJeremy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 662
Real Name: Jeremy
JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about
JAXJeremy JAXJeremy is offline
Member
JAXJeremy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 662
Real Name: Jeremy
JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about JAXJeremy has a spectacular aura about
if your t-stat was in backwards it wouldn't be working right, sounds like your temp is consistent. if it were spiking then I'd say you have a problem.

I've worked on other vehicle cooling systems, but not the 4R, so I'm not familiar with the jiggle valve...Either way, principles are all the same.
__________________
'18 SR5 4WD, magnetic gray metallic, stock, RCI front skid, LFD cross bars, Pedal Commander, Accessorides Remote Start.
JAXJeremy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2019, 12:46 AM #7
gamefreakgc's Avatar
gamefreakgc gamefreakgc is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Age: 36
Posts: 7,337
Real Name: Jerod
gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future
gamefreakgc gamefreakgc is offline
Elite Member
gamefreakgc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Age: 36
Posts: 7,337
Real Name: Jerod
gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future gamefreakgc has a brilliant future
Do you have a cheap bluetooth code reader or something similar like a Scanguage? The Torque app for your phone allows you to see coolant temps if it connects. Best way to know for sure.
__________________
'98 4Runner SR5 - 4x4 JDM 5VZ-FE Supercharged - 249K miles.
326WHP 347TQ

AEM F/IC 6, 11 PSI, 3" Intake and 3" Exhaust
Jerod's Supercharged T[u]RD Build
gamefreakgc is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2019, 01:13 PM #8
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
I have a bluetooth code reader, will not work with my iPhone however I have an old and slow inexpensive Android tablet I was going to donate to Goodwill, I bet that will work. Thanks...
Capnemo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2019, 06:34 PM #9
rdruss's Avatar
rdruss rdruss is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: illinois
Posts: 1,615
Real Name: Ron
rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold
rdruss rdruss is offline
Senior Member
rdruss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: illinois
Posts: 1,615
Real Name: Ron
rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold rdruss is a splendid one to behold
When your stat is closed the coolant just circulates within the heads I believe. Once the stat opens it will send water from engine to rad to be cooled. you may not see much. Drive it and see if coolant stays in normal operating range, then you know.
rdruss is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2019, 04:12 PM #10
Wedgy's Avatar
Wedgy Wedgy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Southern California
Posts: 472
Wedgy has a spectacular aura about Wedgy has a spectacular aura about
Wedgy Wedgy is offline
Member
Wedgy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Southern California
Posts: 472
Wedgy has a spectacular aura about Wedgy has a spectacular aura about
Try the heater, if it's hot you must have water circulation. When I was flushing mine about half the water that came out was cool and half was hot even though it ran for 20 minutes and the heater was hot.
Wedgy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2019, 01:30 AM #11
Roamed YT's Avatar
Roamed YT Roamed YT is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: North of 60
Posts: 253
Roamed YT is on a distinguished road
Roamed YT Roamed YT is offline
Member
Roamed YT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: North of 60
Posts: 253
Roamed YT is on a distinguished road
You might be over thinking this one.

Thermostat is installed in the correct position, you have heat, temperature seems to be normal and no air bleeding out of the cooling system...

I think you've got it. They're a pretty simple coolant circuit, so don't over think if you don't need to!
__________________
- 1999 Limited - Bunch'a stuff done to it. I'm doing more stuff to it still. - Sold to a good home!
- 2003 SR5 Sport V6 - The beater with a heater! Restoring to a former glory now! - Sold to another home!

- 2006 Limited V8
Roamed YT is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2019, 12:45 PM #12
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
Capnemo Capnemo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 191
Capnemo will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamed YT View Post
You might be over thinking this one.

Thermostat is installed in the correct position, you have heat, temperature seems to be normal and no air bleeding out of the cooling system...

I think you've got it. They're a pretty simple coolant circuit, so don't over think if you don't need to!

Ya, I tend to do that sometimes, especially on critical stuff like cooling and brakes.
Capnemo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2019, 01:33 PM #13
pluton's Avatar
pluton pluton is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 1,418
Real Name: Keith
pluton has a spectacular aura about pluton has a spectacular aura about pluton has a spectacular aura about
pluton pluton is offline
Senior Member
pluton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 1,418
Real Name: Keith
pluton has a spectacular aura about pluton has a spectacular aura about pluton has a spectacular aura about
For years, I had read that I could watch the coolant circulate if I uncapped the radiator, started the car, and watched the inside of the radiator through the open cap.
But...every time I tried it (on 1 Toyota 4WD truck and 2 Land cruisers), all I got was the coolant pushing up and spilling out the top of the radiator.
__________________
97 4R SR5, 4WD/Elock, 3.4, 5spd. OME881/890 springs/OME shocks, 265/70/16 BFG AT/KO2.
pluton is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-25-2019, 01:38 PM #14
Riceye Riceye is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 479
Riceye will become famous soon enough Riceye will become famous soon enough
Riceye Riceye is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 479
Riceye will become famous soon enough Riceye will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by pluton View Post
For years, I had read that I could watch the coolant circulate if I uncapped the radiator, started the car, and watched the inside of the radiator through the open cap.
But...every time I tried it (on 1 Toyota 4WD truck and 2 Land cruisers), all I got was the coolant pushing up and spilling out the top of the radiator.
Throttle up to 1500-2000rpm and hold it there. It will spill out if you let the throttle drop.
__________________
_________
2000 SR5 five speed. Everything works, even the antenna. No special mods; It's my canoe, kayak and dog hauler/winter beater.

I find that things usually go well right up until the moment they don't.
Riceye is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
circulation , coolant , minutes , radiator , water


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Radiator coolant, can this be? BrockT 5th gen T4Rs 35 01-22-2024 06:34 PM
Help! Coolant all gone in Radiator! Fadiddy 3rd gen T4Rs 32 03-24-2019 03:44 PM
FS: NEW 3rd gen 4Runner Toyota Radiator, Radiator Cap, Coolant - SF Bay Area, CA - $ TxnBluDvl For Sale: T4R Items 2 04-08-2017 03:23 PM
Coolant around my radiator cap Bijan 3rd gen T4Rs 2 09-25-2015 08:22 PM
Re-circulate Button Insane 5th gen T4Rs 5 11-19-2010 01:04 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020