06-06-2019, 12:31 PM
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Hmmm. Learn something ev day. I would have thought the second number in a tire measurement would affect the calculation. So a 265/70 wouldn't have a smaller radius than a 265/75?
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CENTER OF HUB to FENDER LIP. Tire size won't matter that way. If you do ground to fender lip, the measurement changes with tire size.
Airbags will stiffen up the rear just fine for towing. Just make sure you aren't riding too close to the bump stops with your current (possibly sagged) springs first.
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06-06-2019, 12:36 PM
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Decision made!
99 tall springs.
4813135350 - Front Left $145.92
4813135400 - Front Right $148.74
4823135210 - Rear Both Sides $111.76 x 2
Ordering from mcgeorge toyota parts online. cheaper than camelback toyota.
Now shocks. Think I may go with bilstein 5100 in rear. Not sure what to get for front. Any additional input?
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06-06-2019, 01:50 PM
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I might use 5100s in the rear, and 4600s in the front. Because the 4600s are non-adjustable, they will put the ride height at stock '99 level in the front, giving you a 1" rake with the back higher than the front, which is great for towing. However, someone has probably posted which perch to set the front 5100s on to level the truck with 906s in the rear. It just may be easier to plug and play the 4600s.
Sounds like a fun upgrade!
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06-06-2019, 02:20 PM
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I'm trying to avoid rake. Don't like the look.
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06-06-2019, 02:50 PM
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I was just trying to help you out by saving some cash with some aftermarket close to OEM options..But if you're just gonna go with OEM then by all means do so. The 906's would look "raked" for the first 6 months then eventually settle..Also are you planning to do all the work yourself?
Anywho good luck with your decision!
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06-06-2019, 03:41 PM
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I was just trying to help you out by saving some cash with some aftermarket close to OEM options..But if you're just gonna go with OEM then by all means do so. The 906's would look "raked" for the first 6 months then eventually settle..Also are you planning to do all the work yourself?
Anywho good luck with your decision!
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I am! Much appreciated.
Guess the question remains, which shocks should I put upfront to pair w the 5100's in the rear and avoid rake given I'm going with the '99 tall springs front & rear?
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06-06-2019, 03:49 PM
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I am! Much appreciated.
Guess the question remains, which shocks should I put upfront to pair w the 5100's in the rear and avoid rake given I'm going with the '99 tall springs front & rear?
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5100's on the lowest setting are stock height.
If you are sticking with stock height, the 4600's might be a better choice. They are slightly cheaper and the rears will be valved softer than the 5100's (though if you want stiffer in the rear, 5100's are a good choice).
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06-06-2019, 04:41 PM
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Alrighty then!
5100‘s in the rear...at the lowest setting. (Didn't know they were adjustable. this is all new to me).
And 4600's in the front.
Should minimize rake, minimize lift and with airbags ill be able to stiffen the rear when towing!
Guys, can't thank you enough for contributing. Hope others find this useful.
...off to spend more money! Uhg
Regards,
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06-06-2019, 04:56 PM
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not that it matters for your purposes, but the 5100s in the rear aren't adjustable, just the fronts.
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06-06-2019, 05:32 PM
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not that it matters for your purposes, but the 5100s in the rear aren't adjustable, just the fronts.
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It does matter....cuz this moron was thinking he'd get the adj front and back and tgen be able to adjust as I see fit! So thank you for the clarification.
For others:
Bilstein 5100 shocks p/n for 98 4run:
Part Number: 24-248730 height adjustable (fronts)
Part Number: 24-249966 not adjustable (rears)
kits are available at a better price. Include all four.
Decided against tge 4600's purely for their looks. Baby blue/yellow?? Not my style.
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06-06-2019, 06:02 PM
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Surprised no one suggested 5th gen rear springs given they are stiffer and almost the same height as the 99 talls, may work better for towing.
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06-06-2019, 06:17 PM
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Probably wasn't mentioned because I don't want it to be too stiff when not towing. Airbags will add additional support.
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I wanted to keep a mostly stock ride height and was able to acheive that with the Bilstein 4600's all around and Toyota OEM '99 "tall" springs in the back. Turns out there is almost no difference in spring height between the '99's and '98(which I have), with my 20 year old '98 springs side by side with the new'99's there was less that 1/2" difference in height.
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06-06-2019, 07:06 PM
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I wanted to keep a mostly stock ride height and was able to acheive that with the Bilstein 4600's all around and Toyota OEM '99 "tall" springs in the back. Turns out there is almost no difference in spring height between the '99's and '98(which I have), with my 20 year old '98 springs side by side with the new'99's there was less that 1/2" difference in height.
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This is exactly why I suggested measuring ride height. He may not need new springs. Just shocks and rear bags might be enough for his purposes.
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This is exactly why I suggested measuring ride height. He may not need new springs. Just shocks and rear bags might be enough for his purposes.
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Charlie I believe I posted the measurements above. Nonetheless, the new 6" airbags are touching at both ends of the airbag w minimal inflation which shouldn't be the case according to a few I've discussed this with. I know for sure I need shocks. Given the vehicle's age, springs seem prudent.
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