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I'm actively looking for a decent 4th gen with a V8. Our family is growing (3rd kid on its way) and I need something bigger.

Oh and my biggest issue with 3rd gen's is they seriously lack power. Towing my boat absolutely sucks with it.

Other than that, I love everything else about my 3rd gen.
I was looking at them recently but then researched how much those cracked exhaust manifolds cost to fix. Well over $1000 just in parts. You can do Doug Thorley headers for cheaper I think but quite a lot of work involved. Oh yeah and how much the 4LO actuator costs to fix too. And the secondary air intake thingy. Other than that they seem pretty solid.
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are there any newer models that have increased towing capabilities (>5000lbs)?
They are all still rated at 5k lbs. Of course, they will be more capable than a 3rd gen (more power, better brakes, heavier, wider, etc.). The more conservative ratings are more due to lawyers than capabilities.

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I was looking at them recently but then researched how much those cracked exhaust manifolds cost to fix. Well over $1000 just in parts. You can do Doug Thorley headers for cheaper I think but quite a lot of work involved. Oh yeah and how much the 4LO actuator costs to fix too. And the secondary air intake thingy. Other than that they seem pretty solid.
When I was researching the 4th gens seemed to have quite a few little foibles, more than the 3rd gens it seemed. The early 4.0l V6 4th gens had a lot of head gasket issues too.

For me, if my truck were to get totalled or something, it would probably either be a 99 or 2000 Limited, or a ~5 year old 5th Gen. I really don't care for the styling or interiors on the 4th gens personally.
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When I was researching the 4th gens seemed to have quite a few little foibles, more than the 3rd gens it seemed. The early 4.0l V6 4th gens had a lot of head gasket issues too.

For me, if my truck were to get totalled or something, it would probably either be a 99 or 2000 Limited, or a ~5 year old 5th Gen. I really don't care for the styling or interiors on the 4th gens personally.
When they are lifted they look good to me but otherwise I'm not a fan. And I'm only really attracted to the v8 after test driving a couple. I don't like the styling of the GX470 either they are too tall and have too much stuff going on with the interior. The 4th gen v6 is basically the same engine as the 5th gen so don't see the point of a later v6 4th gen vs earlier 5th gen. The later years v6 does seem to have less foibles than the v8.
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Did the 4th gens offer a rear locker at all?
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Did the 4th gens offer a rear locker at all?
Not that I'm aware of. I don't think the rear locker came back until the 5th gen.
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no rear locker option on the 4th gen, that is what holds me back on it. otherwise I like them. My buddy swapped on in from an FJ.

I'd either go with a 99 with a supercharger and built for trails..
an LX 470 with V8 and locker
or FJ80 triple locked with a V8 or turbo diesel swap.

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The V8 4th gen's are rated to tow 7k pounds.

The 2UZ-FE is an extremely well built motor, among the best Toyota ever built (or any auto maker). The cracked exhaust manifolds are somewhat common but they are otherwise a bulletproof engine.

There was a locking rear diff option on the 4th although it is extremely rare. It was only on the 09 model year "trail edition" 4runner. I actually test drove one in Chicago many years ago but it was in pretty rough shape so we passed on it.
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When they are lifted they look good to me but otherwise I'm not a fan.
100%. Otherwise they look like minivans.

When I was first looking I was considering a 4th gen. Not very excited by the look, but figured I'd get used to it. But the interior was a deal breaker. The 4wd button looks like a video game controller. Too many doodads. I want to feel like I'm in a car, not a spaceship.
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The V8 4th gen's are rated to tow 7k pounds.

The 2UZ-FE is an extremely well built motor, among the best Toyota ever built (or any auto maker). The cracked exhaust manifolds are somewhat common but they are otherwise a bulletproof engine.

There was a locking rear diff option on the 4th although it is extremely rare. It was only on the 09 model year "trail edition" 4runner. I actually test drove one in Chicago many years ago but it was in pretty rough shape so we passed on it.
Only the latter ones with the heavier duty frame mounted hitch.

And replacement vehicle would depend on what you need it for.
Trails? 3rd gen
Reliable road trip vehicle that eats up the miles? v8 4th gen is my pick. Effortless/lazy power in hills or for 75mph+ scooting. And the v8 with a broken midpipe = glory. Hate how the local government scrapped emissions testing RIGHT after I spent $500 to fix the leaky cat back with a POS Walker unit.. dead quiet now. With the leak far downstream, the v8 sounded GLORIOUS on startup and off the line, but was stock-quiet once up to speed and just cruising. (was) the best of all worlds. Early v8's don't have the secondairy air injection, and RE: the manifold tick, I've been driving with the tick for over 50,000miles, does not affect performance, not throwing codes (fingers crossed), just a minor nuisance that disappears with the windows up or music up.

Vehicle for wife that needs minimal time spent off the road? 4th or 5th gen, budget dependent.

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