08-22-2019, 07:53 PM
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I would get that fixed, Like others have stated, you don't want that lower control arm bracket coming off.. That would fail PA inspection as rust holes in the frames will not pass.
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08-23-2019, 11:36 AM
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LOL you got nothing to worry about. That is no rust.
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08-23-2019, 11:58 AM
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Hey guys - noticed quite a bit of rust under my 3rd gen this weekend (2001, 165k miles). No, I didn't wash underneath and no I didn't coat (lesson learned). Sucks because everything else is in good/great condition and wanted to get the car to 200k at least (would be 3+ years...just a to/from work car).
Pics attached - by far the worst area. This is rear passenger side. Everything else is just surface rust.
Two questions:
Is this much rust unsafe to drive? Just passed Virginia safety inspection 3 months ago. Would like to continue to drive to work (8 miles each way, 40 mph tops, no highways) until the new Highlanders come out.
Is there any patch/weld option at this point or not even worth it?
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Wow! lot of rust there. Bossman, are you in the northern rust belt - NY, Boston?
I'd spray it with Corrosion X. It will turn it black and stop further rust and not wash away. https://www.amazon.com/Corrosion-X-C...gateway&sr=8-1
I have SR5 2005 with rust on the cross bar under the radiator. I knocked off a few rust flakes and sprayed it (I used the Corrosion X squeeze bottle - not aerosol can), and the color changed to a "black" from the Corrosion X. Seems to have helped.
The rest of my runner underbody is basically rust free.
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08-23-2019, 12:18 PM
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Looking into buying this 2008 4wd runner with 140,000 miles (priced at $12k). Interior is spotless and there is barely even a scratch on the outside. The only con is this car is from Pennsylvania and the car is rusted. These pictures aren't great, but does this look like I might be able to drive this vehicle for 4+ years or will the rust be too much of a hassle in the long run.
(Just realized this is a 3rd gen form, but any help at all would be appreciated)
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Doesn't look too bad to me. Surface rust try corrosion X. Bring a mechanic with you next time you view the 12 year old 2008 4runner.
https://www.amazon.com/Corrosion-X-C...ct_top?ie=UTF8
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08-23-2019, 02:05 PM
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Totally fixable! As I tell customers with rusty frames, especially rusted out unibody vehicles like a Ford Taurus with no rocker panels under those plastic covers, it's not going to break in half driving down the road, but it will probably fail catastrophically in a bad accident. As you can see in the photo I attached, even though this frame is totally wiped out, the LCA mount is still supporting the weight of this 4Runner on the lift. It's ok to drive for a while, but get it fixed. Once they start to go they get worse quick.
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This one looks like the frame on my 98 limited parts mobile.... Its that bad or worse. Still holding together yet.
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Sadly my 200o 4 runner looks the same way underneath in the same spot. I am angry as can be, because my ride has 418,000 miles its the best ride I have ever had. I also have a Lexus ES350. I purchased a new combo welder from Eastwood Company I am jacking it up in the morning and starting with brushing off all the loose rust then spraying everything with this rust treatment Eastwood sells it has so sit on the metal for at least 30 minutes without drying. Then its mig welding everything under that truck with 2x2 and 2x3 by 1/8 and 1/4 angle iron. it's really bad I am scared to drive it but its been the most reliable truck I have ever owned. I can't give it to my grandson until I deal with the rust. Its 20 yrs old never had an A/C charge it will still blow you out of there, look new under the hood. Now I am afraid to buy a new one? I wonder if this is effecting they Lexus Suv's as well? My daughter drives an Rx350. Toyota needs to tell the world what they have done to resolve these issues moving forward. This is bad news I will take before and after pics wish me luck
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09-04-2020, 12:41 AM
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Don't put the Eastwood on until you have finished welding.
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09-04-2020, 11:58 AM
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I just finished fixing mine, PO was gonna bring it to the junkyard. should last for years now.
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I just finished fixing mine, PO was gonna bring it to the junkyard. should last for years now.
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That will provided you put a good rust inhibitor inside the frame before seal up. Good job by removing all the frame holes you have less chance of salt etc. Getting in and rusting it out.
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That will provided you put a good rust inhibitor inside the frame before seal up. Good job by removing all the frame holes you have less chance of salt etc. Getting in and rusting it out.
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I painted the inside but pretty sure the welding exposed some of it again. I plan on installing some perforated hose that runs throughout the entire frame that will live there, shoot some sort of oil based product through it a couple times a year and it shouldn’t give me any issues.
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I painted the inside but pretty sure the welding exposed some of it again. I plan on installing some perforated hose that runs throughout the entire frame that will live there, shoot some sort of oil based product through it a couple times a year and it shouldn’t give me any issues.
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Oh you current setup will last you many years. I am just in the rust belt and when I fix frames i coat the inside with FF while sealing up. As some paint burns off welding shut. The sweating hose idea etc is excellent. I just fix areas and super coat the inside when done. I figure. With good steel and rust inhibitors fluids inside a sealed frame it will last even longer.
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I'm the OP and saw that this thread was still going - appreciate the help.
I ended up getting the rust fixed by a welder at an auto restoration shop - it cost $1200 to fix all of it plus new struts, I think the welding-only would have been $900. This is in a very high cost-of-living area (outside DC) so I am guessing cheaper in 99% of the U.S.
It had failed VA state inspection this time but passed after the welding. The welder had done it before and said he thought it would outlive the engine...which may be a challenge since it only has 170k miles. Hopefully another 3-5 years out of it!
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Originally Posted by trbaker90
Looking into buying this 2008 4wd runner with 140,000 miles (priced at $12k). Interior is spotless and there is barely even a scratch on the outside. The only con is this car is from Pennsylvania and the car is rusted. These pictures aren't great, but does this look like I might be able to drive this vehicle for 4+ years or will the rust be too much of a hassle in the long run.
(Just realized this is a 3rd gen form, but any help at all would be appreciated)
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I'm in MN. we are prime salt belt, you will not see any cars/trucks here older than 20 years. Yes some people have special cars/trucks and we only drive them in the summer.
I would pass for that kind of money you should be able to find a pretty rust free truck. it's not super bad rust and you could fluid film it each year and it would be ok. To me that kind of rust is not serviceable, all the nuts bolts need to be cut off and replaced if you have any maintenance.
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09-08-2020, 12:34 PM
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I'm the OP and saw that this thread was still going - appreciate the help.
I ended up getting the rust fixed by a welder at an auto restoration shop - it cost $1200 to fix all of it plus new struts, I think the welding-only would have been $900. This is in a very high cost-of-living area (outside DC) so I am guessing cheaper in 99% of the U.S.
It had failed VA state inspection this time but passed after the welding. The welder had done it before and said he thought it would outlive the engine...which may be a challenge since it only has 170k miles. Hopefully another 3-5 years out of it!
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I am a welder and have done frame repair like this on a buddy’s Jeep frame that cracked in a very similar spot. If you can find a welder to help you, I would recommend cutting out a cardboard stencil and then tracing it into some 3/8” or 1/4” steel plating and welding it over the effected area. Most importantly remove all of the rust from the area and then paint after it is repaired so it won’t continue in the future.
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